CMT Roles & Responsibilities

#1
Been an observer here for some time now, but since my application is now underway I thought it a good time to get some advice from a source aside from the AFCO. I've done a fairly comprehensive search on here, but was hoping for some additional advice.

I was hoping to garner some information about the day in/day out life of a CMT. Aside from when deployed, what roles and responsibilities would one likely be involved in? I understand there is probably a huge array of possibilities, but what is the "average" day likely to entail? For instance, where would one be posted when not deployed and what would they be doing there?

Sarcasm/abuse encouraged. Sensible answers too.

Thanks in advance!

LN
 
#2
I spent a period as an RMA working alongside CMTs in a Med Centre.

From what I understood (maybe it's changed in 4/5 years) the average day in unit, for a CMT, was spent errecting/dismantling tents.
 
#6
Right well as I did 13 years as a CMT I may be qualified to answer, however I did get out 9 years ago so things may have changed...

General duties may include, folding and lacing tents together, sorting scrim nets, servicing departmental kit, getting spammed to work on a QM's work party, painting boxes, and painting Landrovers because the trogs are too thick to do it.
Possibly going on exercise to get f*cked about with completely unrealistic scenarios and screaming stabs or cadets coming through as casualties. However exercises do give you ample opportunity to give the dance of the whistling tent pole a go on any tosser who has pi**ed you off.
Probably do 2 morning sessions of PT a week, sports afternoon on a Weds and Battle PT once a week followed by a POETS day on a friday if lucky and don't have a complete tool for an RSM.

However this may sound mundane and generally it is but you meet some great mates and have a great laugh and in my day slap a few girlie Techs about at the CMH club on a Thursday night (sadly that is all gone) and then pull all the women because your a real Field Medic not a Lab rat tube sniffer, photographer, or glorified cleaner.
(Been a while since I posted on here so will insult as many as I can!!)

Ok you might be a bird then in that case you will have a good time getting lashed and even if your a munter someone will!!
 
#7
Stan,

I'm glad my question managed to coax you out of ARRSE sabbatical!

Thanks for the insightful and honest reply. I had suspicions that barrack life might be slightly tedious, but the good work done on deployments must make up for it.

LN
 
#8
Luck_Now said:
Stan,

I'm glad my question managed to coax you out of ARRSE sabbatical!

Thanks for the insightful and honest reply. I had suspicions that barrack life might be slightly tedious, but the good work done on deployments must make up for it.

LN
Stan has pretty much hit the nail on the head with his reply, I left the CMT Cadre 9 years ago and went "Lab Rat". Got posted back the same Fd Hosp I left 10 years previous and nothing much had changed except my rank. Same 5hit day in day out, move tents, erect tents, put tents away. Go on exercise put tents up, make it look pretty for some School Kid Doctors to come look at then take it all back down ready to be erected and washed when back in camp.

Try to keep the use of big words like "sabbatical" to a minimum though it only confuses the "real" Medics ;)
 
#9
Considering that the role of a Cbt Med Tech is to deliver care at Role 1-4, it is unlikely that you will get to do this in Barracks....................................

Those who moan about keeping equipment maintained clearly believe the equipment fairy will do this for them??

The reality is that whatever Arm/Service you join, there are still the mundane, seemingly senseless tasks that fill the in-barracks time. As you rightly point out this is more than covered by the time on Operations (and remembering to enjoy military life wherever it takes you). Good luck and keep healthy.
 
#11
Past role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, infact even at Role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, they will be utilised as Health Care Assistants by the Nursing Staff or dogs bodies by the SQMS department. Those that do deliver care past role 2E are normally on placement on a hospital ward and again will be utilised as Health Care Assistants.

Either that or they are one of the chosen ones selected for Paramedic training but they are used as first response not delivering care like those in the Grey Mafia.
 
#12
cherryviper said:
Past role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, infact even at Role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, they will be utilised as Health Care Assistants by the Nursing Staff or dogs bodies by the SQMS department. Those that do deliver care past role 2E are normally on placement on a hospital ward and again will be utilised as Health Care Assistants.

Either that or they are one of the chosen ones selected for Paramedic training but they are used as first response not delivering care like those in the Grey Mafia.
Not entirely sure how current you are - althought a PSAO cannot be counted as current.........

However, the Cbt Med Tech is very different to that which you describe and deserves better acknowledgement. First Responders are a UKism for a band of dedicated people who respond to incidents prior to the AT/SRP.

The Cbt Med Tech delivers care (in all its guises) from Role 1-4 and for what its worth, every serviceman/woman does equipment care (this does not make them a dogsbody.............).
 
#14
Only 28 years I'm afraid and considering that the originator wants to know about what the Cbt Med Tech does today, I think currency is pretty important?? We can all swing a lamp if asked...................
 
#15
Thanks for your current view TS so CMTs in camp in Field Hospitals don’t spend 99% of their time checking tents, folding blankets or sweeping the store any more. The guys in AFAs don’t spend 60% of their time servicing the panzers and the other 40 painting boxes how things have moved on in 8 years.
 
#16
Having just visited a Field Hospital and served in a Regiment (they havn't been AFA for years) within the last 12 months I can say that yes, they still do equipment care and vehicle maintenance (but then it would be ridiculous if they didnt' wouldn't it??).

However, more to the point, the unit I served in and the hospital I visited BOTH offer comprehensive training (clinical) and in real terms the medics spend more time away operating as medics than they ever did before. Adventure Training still happens and the parades in the morning indicate just how few people are in barracks.

As for painting boxes - I think you will find that the 557/558 Modules (designed for a Class 2/1) are kept in Bergans so painting them would be pretty foolish (although not unheard of). As I said earlier, we could all talk about how things were in "our day" but I believe that things have moved on - next time you get the chance, compare the medals worn by an RAMC Cpl/Sgt today compared to one from 1985................

Regards

TS
 
#17
top_soldier said:
cherryviper said:
Past role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, infact even at Role 2E you wont see many CMTs delivering care, they will be utilised as Health Care Assistants by the Nursing Staff or dogs bodies by the SQMS department. Those that do deliver care past role 2E are normally on placement on a hospital ward and again will be utilised as Health Care Assistants.

Either that or they are one of the chosen ones selected for Paramedic training but they are used as first response not delivering care like those in the Grey Mafia.
Not entirely sure how current you are - althought a PSAO cannot be counted as current.........

However, the Cbt Med Tech is very different to that which you describe and deserves better acknowledgement. First Responders are a UKism for a band of dedicated people who respond to incidents prior to the AT/SRP.

The Cbt Med Tech delivers care (in all its guises) from Role 1-4 and for what its worth, every serviceman/woman does equipment care (this does not make them a dogsbody.............).
Being that I am indeed still serving and have recently left a Field Hospital to come to a Role 3, so to speak, hospital after 6 months on tour with the afore mentioned Field Hospital, I would say I'm probably a little more up to date and current than you realise.

The CMT here at TPMH works on hospital reception pretty much the same as they would on tour with a Field Hospital, they do not get on the wards to deliver care and the med centre medics work as triage medics again delivering very little in the way of care.

The CMT on tour with a Field Hospital unless on the Blue Light Matrix works on reception, with the SQMS or is utilised as a Health Care Assistant as stated previously.

I referred to the CMT as a dogsbody for the SQMS, as 9 out of 10 times they will be tasked to go into a ISO container and collect G4 items for the Hospital or going around with contracters showing them what is broken. This was not out of disresspect for the hard work that is carried out by the CMT nor in anyway a slant against the trade meerly an observation that I have witnessed whilst serving with the Field Hospital.

From my experience in Fd Units, 1 x PFA, 1 x AFA, 1 Med Regt and 2 x Fd Hosp, yes I agree that the role of the CMT is changing for the better but lets not glamorise it to be something it is not, the trade still holds no formal care qualification unless selected to do Paramedic training. 90% of your time will be equipment care not care giving.
 
#19
I'm following this discussion with interest because it's nice to know what currently goes on. Always bear in mind that CMT is the "core" trade in the Corps. That is it is the largest trade in terms of manpower and CMTs carry out "regimental" as well as trade duties. Some corps have a separate GD trade, we don't.
As has been pointed out there is much mundane work to be carried out in barracks but, remembering that you will rely on this kit in the field, it does need checking and maintaining and keeping up to date.
In my day there were plenty of opportunities to get out and practice medicine it was just a case of volunteering for whatever comes up. Show willing on some of the shite jobs and you're more likely to get a good one when they come up as well.
It is also worth pointing out that 'care' doesn't mean handling. A CMT may not be involved in the long term care of a wounded soldier but he can be integral to his/her survival and immediate care. CMTs can find themselves on patrol and having to administer emergency treatment in the most extreme of circumstances and stabilising a casualty not only for extraction but for the journey to the hospital is vital and goes before any 'care'.
Unless things have changed a CMT on detachment can act as many things including the nearest thing to a doctor available. I once spent a detachment heading up a section in support of a major exercise in Italy. The MO was taken ill the day we deployed and didn't come, that left me to carry out a basic sick cover for the brigade. During that time I had to arrange a casevac for a soldier and admit 3 soldiers to Italian hospital (in Italian hospitals the patients have basic care by the family) which entailed my guys using basic nursing skills.
I managed to get on detachments and med covers round most of the world. In some you were well supported in others it was you and your knowledge/ingenuity. Knowing what your kit contained, what it was used for and that it was in perfect working order was vital and that was done in the barracks. Similarly when you're cold, wet and miserable and the rain/sleet/drizzle etc is slashing down it's nice to know you can get your tentage up and down in short order and get warm!
The very best thing about being a CMT was that you got to spend a lot of time with real soldiers and the real Army. You wont be tucked away in an MDHU or in the rear at Bastion you'll be sharing the shit and the shell with the guys who make this Army what it is, you can't buy that.
 
#20
CBGRAMC and Cherry Viper.........

Take note chaps - your recollection of the MA etc etc is only that, a recollection

Give the youngsters some credit, they are not fools and work damned hard each and every day to provide care. Your views on what they spend "90%" of their time on are so far off beam it's quite frankly embarrassing. I will be at another Regiment tomorrow, I will pass on your views on what these youngsters do.....

Markintime - thank you, common sense prevails.
 

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