CMT Phase 2

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  1. Hi All,

    Currently interested in being a CMT, just waiting to be declared medically fit!

    I've tried (and failed) to find as much info regarding CMT phase 2, and I just can't find a thing.

    Any help available?

    Also, on a tangent, what sort of things can you specialise in (If any?)

    Thanks :D
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  2. In a nutshell...

    Phase 2 training for the CMT trade is around 27 weeks long, during which you will learn all the skills needed to become a CMT Class 2 in a Field Army unit. This includes going on a clinical placement and completing an apprenticeship / BTEC / NVQ 2 in Health & Social Care.

    I personally feel that CMT Phase 2 can be quite challenging and requires a fair amount of revision in spare time if you want to do well.

    There's lot's of useful info both on the above link, and on these forums. Have a search.

    Good luck with your application.
  3. Well this is all the Army Jobs bit has about it,

    Following your basic Army training, where you learn essential combat and survival skills, you begin a 23-week course that combines theoretical study with hands-on practice in medical centres and ambulance stations. You then join a medical regiment or field hospital for 18 months’ practical work experience.

    For a start, the major problem is the fact I "go" for 23 weeks, whereas other sources (e..g. you, and the CMT webpage) say 27 weeks.

    It doesn't really help when there's no clear idea on what to expect. As far as I'm concerned, that tells me near enough nothing.

    I've tried looking around the forums and there's not really much on it. Doesn't tell me much about development as a CMT or what you really do... I hear all this stuff about painting boxes and other crap, and going on ops to care for the wounded on the frontline.,.. But surely there's more to it than that?
  4. Just don't go into it thinking you will be a paramedic at the end of it! You won't!!!! Your phase 2 is pretty much the basic knowledge of everything from Battlefield Trauma through to Primary Health care (bumps and bruises, sprains etc) as well as environmental health - pest control, D+V. At the end of it you'll probably end up at a med regt but as a class 2 CMT not meant to work on your own.

    Finish your phase 2, you will then end up going back to do your Class 1 which is more of the same but you are expected to be able to work alone at the end of it. Still not a qualified paramedic by the end of it but you can get your paramedic qualification in the army, but from what i have seen its dependent on who much work you put in.

    I spent a fair bit of time in med regts and the work can be bone - the old tents and tents pegs bollocks. Can ask for a Infantry RAP for your second posting (should be a LCpl by then) which is where it does get better. I loved being in a RAP and you get treated like a grown up - basically working in a Med Centre (army version of a GP's surgery) seeing day to day bumps, sprains, doses of syphilis etc etc, just getting to know the guys. All pays off when you deploy on tour with the Bn. In camp probably get assigned to a Rifle Coy so you are the main PoC for those 60 blokes, and should do most of their med training too.

    There are lots of courses you can do, not just medical - get drills courses or skill at arms done and can end up taking a break from Medical and work in a training regiment. Get it done as a before Sgt as then you lose a lot of hands on and move into admin or more tent and tent pegs!

    Also really useful as a starting point for looking at other trades within the Med corps too if (like me) you want to transfer to something different later on.

    Anyway, thats me sprouting crap for long enough, no doubt i'm going to be totally contradicted by someone else. Hope that helped!
  5. Thanks Flambo,

    That's all the sort of info I've really been looking for :)

    Also, I heard someone say a while ago that the NHS contracts Army medics to provide Ambulance cover in some places around the country (In particular Military towns etc). To me, it doesn't seem entirely truthful cause of insurance and what have you, but then again part of me thinks it would be more convenient for the NHS to do it like that...
  6. Never heard that one, know you can get placements with the NHS working as an observer with their crews. I'd imagine the red tape would be too much hassle. Its a massive contrast between what you can do on tour - where you are a important life saving link in a platoon, potentially miles out in the middle of nowhere on your own - and working in the UK with all the ensuing guidelines and bureaucracy. You often end up being relegated to being a glorified receptionist who is just about trusted to give out a paracetamol without killing someone!
    Just be aware that like any job there will be aspects of being a CMT that are totally bone - most of which involve civilian MOD employees!
  7. Yeah, I thought it would be a bit odd, but I can see potential reasons why they would use them.

    But yeah, fair enough...

    Obviously I'm not expecting to be a glorified HPC paramedic when I leave, but what about the Open University... Are they widely supported by the Army? What with the Army going on about how they're so keen for everyone to learn etc. The OU do the Paramedic Science degree, but require you to be in a medical background. Any knowledge on that?
  8. If your sole focus is on becoming a Paramedic then I'd suggest joining the RAF. I've come across loads lately doing their Paramedic Science and Placements through the RAF.
  9. No that's not my sole aim, I'm just looking at developing myself - CPD and all that crap...

    It'll look better on me if I can say I've got a Degree in X, Licenses Y and Z etc as opposed to "Oh, he's just an Ex-Army CMT who can teach sprogs to shoot guns".

    Just exploring my options for education, that's all.
  10. No experience with the OU mate. As above it does seem that the RAF get their guys a better shot at doing the paramedic course though. When i was at 16 the RAF medics in med troop always seemed to get on their paramedic course quicker than the army guys.
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  11. Ahh fair enough... Just looking into it really, I mean I'm not saying I will certainly be a paramedic... For all I know I could love being a CMT and end up staying in for 30+ years and doing something completely different after...
  12. I am a ex infantry now RAMC HPC registered paramedic (IHCD route) I Have also completed a PG cert in healthcare in austere environments. What I am trying to say is the opportunities are there but they will not come to you, you will have to do the research and take the opportunities you have instigated. Hope this makes sense.
  13. So effectively, what you're saying is the opportunities are available... However if you want to do them, you've got to sort it out yourself?

    Fair enough really...
  14. Yes pretty much however fortune favours the motivated and sensible posting choices!! Sorry it isn't much help pm if you require further help and or advice. Very best of luck.