CMT or QARANC???

#1
hey every1 :D

i'm in the process of applying to the army at the moment and its getting ever closer to the time for me to make a decison for defo about wot career i wana do 8O

i'm torn between CMT, which i have been told gives you more of a chance of gettin out there and seeing the world aswell as also bein more involved in hands on army life. although from what i can gain through readin some of the posts they are not actually allowed to do much serious medical based work!

...... and on the other hand the QARANC's which seem to be the opposite way around in regards tht it seems tht most of there time is spent in treatin civvy's in hospitals in this country but then they are the ones who are more involved in adminstering the serious medical care!

i'm so stuck :?! i no tht its my decision in the end but any comments or info serious or funny (bcoz i cud do wiv a giggle :lol: ) from any of u wiv the actual experience from either of these jobs would be greatly appreciated!!!

cheers xxx :wink:
 
#4
(bcoz i cud do wiv a giggle ) from any of u wiv
Youre first step towards making the right choice would be to grow up and learn the Queen's f*cking English you chav c*nt. :roll:
 
#8
Do nurse! As a nurse who trained as a CMT (TA admittedly), you have something that is useful outside the army as a nurse, but CMT just teaches you "useful transferable skills!". Go to most civvy hospitals and say you are a CMT and they will go "huh?" Also, lots to be said for being based in a hospital when it is cold and wet! :D To quote the Duke of Wellington "Any bloody fool can be uncomfortable"
 
#10
What trade are youi looking at in the QAs? If it's student nurse, then it's 3 yrs as a civvy with lots of money, followed by 3 yrs as a civvy with lots of money and a qual. You do have some sh1t jobs though (in more ways than one), and you have to put up with knobbers giving you abuse because you're a 'fat QA'. There are "green" roles out there for nurses, just not a lot of them.

If you're thinking HCA, don't. It's sort of like the above but without the money or the qual.

As for CMT, this is a lot more green oriented, but unless you're on ex/ops that usually just means you get treated like a mong more. It is not all-on-your-belt-buckle-dragging-casualties-out-of-firefights-with-your-teeth, Its more in a big warehouse, folding tents, counting med stores and doing the odd bit of BCAD. Again, some good jobs out there, there are just more cr@p ones.

Then again this thread is probably just a transparent attempt at starting a slagging match, if so then fcuk off you troll.

Have a nice day

Mac
 
#11
BigMac said:
Then again this thread is probably just a transparent attempt at starting a slagging match, if so then fcuk off you troll.
no that wasnt my intention at all i am just really interested in finding out more info on the two jobs b4 i make my final decison, as my local army careers office really isnt helping!

neway i appreciate all your comments (except for the 1 tht called me a chav c*nt :evil: ) they are able to give me a better clue about wot it's all really like instead of just sugar coating everything!

cheers xxx :D
 
#12
dont_rememba_didnt_happen said:
BigMac said:
Then again this thread is probably just a transparent attempt at starting a slagging match, if so then fcuk off you troll.
no that wasnt my intention at all i am just really interested in finding out more info on the two jobs b4 i make my final decison, as my local army careers office really isnt helping!

neway i appreciate all your comments (except for the 1 tht called me a chav c*nt :evil: ) they are able to give me a better clue about wot it's all really like instead of just sugar coating everything!

cheers xxx :D
i think you are doing a sensible thing, the coments you get will be ambiguous to certain people however stick at it, the armed forces are full of bitter people, that is life.try and think where your experience will be valuable and what you enjoy.be positive as i am sure you can be , get your mental future in your head and laugh,
 
#13
Know a bit about both QA and CMT here. I served as a QA for over 13 years, hubby just recently left after doing 22 years as a CMT!!

Initially yes you are more UK based as a QA until you are qualified and unfrotunatley more and more military hospitals have closed down and you would be attached to an MDHU (see the thread on MDHUs to give you an idea of what they are about).

I had an excellent nursing carrer in the Army, not only doing the typical things you see in a civvie hospital, but the extra ordinary too when on tours. More and more QAs are attached to units who deploy all over the world Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia (to name a few).

Go QA. I had a qualification i could use instantly when i left. Hubby had so much knowledge, military courses but unfortunatly not that civvie street would recognise.

The pay is excellent once qualified. I was on more than my hubby at one point and a rank lower!
Good luck in whichever you choose.
 
#14
I'd completely agree with sunflower. When I went to re-trade, I was actually going for CMT. I spoke to a geezer in the AFCO to get his thoughts, and he recommended the QAs. The above reasons are all sound.

There are more green roles going for nurses than ever before, and these can be combined with professional skills to create a decent career if you are willing to go searching for the opportunities. Like I said earlier, you will get idiots slagging you because of the capbadge (usually CMTs), but at the end of the day you'll be loaded and have a decent qualification behind you. The stigma can be reduced by being enthusiastic, working hard at the military side of things and being an asset to your unit.

As you're obviously not a troll, I apologise for my rant, and you no longer have to fcuk off.

Good luck,

Mac
 
#15
Hello,

I was in the same situation as yourself when I joined up, and I know how hard it can be to get any real information. The careers office will advice you to go nurse for the qualification/money etc. My advice to you is gain some experience in a hospital as an hca/volunteer etc. first as the three year training is a real slog if you don't like what you're doing. I went QA - Student Nurse, and now that I've qualified and work as a registered nurse I don't regret my choice. Forget the brochures and adverts, and find out if nursing is for you first and foremost. If not then your decision has been made for you.

Hope that helps,

Good luck.

Herring
 
#16
BigMac said:
As you're obviously not a troll, I apologise for my rant, and you no longer have to fcuk off.Mac
:lol: thanxs alot 4 tht comment much appreciated :lol:

neway i think :? tht i am leaning more in the direction of QA's now.

although if i were to join as a CMT would it be possible for me to transfer to nursing if i found tht i had made the wrong career decision, or would i have to stick with the CMT job?

cheers 4 all the info every1 :D
 
#17
Would not be impossible to transfer but It might take some time.

You are looking at two very different jobs here.
Nurse is a nurse and dont believe all the recruiting hype you may get to do a little military stuff but without being too negative that is the exception rather than the rule.
CMT should you find yourself in the right place at the right time could be an exciting and challenging role, Think paramedic with a machine gun. (Yeah ok guys I know Im pushing the boundarys of belief here) However the harsh reality is that you will spend little time dealing with poorly soldiers and more time doing the mundane day to day buisness of army life.


"leaning the way of the QA's" not to be taken lightly, Would you or example consider doing your nurse training as a civillian ? Well thats what you will be doing. Only difference is you will be getting paid. If you do go for it you are going to be doing 3 years at University not leaping out of Helicopters, Armoured personnel carriers, The Naafi etc.

Either way I hope you make the right decision for you, kepp asking questions here and you may just get some sound advice ;)
 
#18
If you want to do all the military stuff, go for CMT. Just bear in mind that there is very little medical stuff that actually goes on in this trade, and as has been mentioned the work can be fairly mundane. Please be wary of the use of the word paramedic, as CMT training does not qualify you as such. The military qualifications are not transferrable to civvy street. However, the military side of things can be great craic, and you can make some good mates.

With the QAs after phase 1 you will not be military in any way for 3 years (during your training). This is a fact, and there is no way out of it. The only digression from this is that you are part of the military and are still subject to military law, as well as getting paid. Upon qualification you will probably work in a hospital for at least 2 years, doing the odd exercise and your ITDs if you're lucky. If you are forward enough, there are chances to do military things, the problem is most QAs are only there because they want to be a nurse and wanted to get paid during the training. This gives the rest of the corps a bad image. As QA nurse training is carried out through a civvy university and we are registered with the same governing body as civvy nurses (NMC), our training is directly transferrable upon leaving the forces. This increases your long-term options.

Choice is yours, do the green stuff straight away and have a bit of fun, or do less green stuff and have a better qualification with better long-term options.
 
#19
Join the QAs. You may not be in long enough to see the day when Clinical Governance will force the Army to be realistic over what ongoing training to give CMTs, who are likely to face streaming in to clinical (ambulance tech, paramedic) and general duties CEGs.
 

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