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Climate Change: Scientists Say "Last Chance"

As Kermit the Frog sang, 'It's not easy being green'. Perhaps we need to employ non-exploding explosives to reduce our carbon footprint?

'NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has suggested that by adding solar panels, tanks could become less reliant on fossil fuels and that will increase the resilience of troops and military operations.

'War, what is good for? Certainly not the environment, and as a result, the tanks rolling across Europe could soon be green, and not just the paint scheme. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has addressed the fact that the militaries of the world emit a considerable amount of greenhouse gases, and has called upon efforts for the tanks to go green by adding solar panels.

'Stoltenberg called up efforts to develop low-emitting vehicles at an online seminar titled New Ideas for NATO 2030. “NATO should do its part to look into how we can reduce emissions from military operations,” Stoltenberg said during the Chatham House. “We know that heavy battle tanks or fighter jets and naval ships, they consume a lot of fossil fuel and emit greenhouse or co2, greenhouse gases, co2, and therefore we do have to look into how we can reduce those emissions by alternative fuels, solar panels, and other ways of running our missions.”

'In addition to being good for the environment and reducing the carbon footprint, Stoltenberg has suggested that by adding solar panels, tanks could become less reliant on fossil fuels and that will increase the resilience of troops and military operations. “Along supply lines, vulnerable supply lines, as always, for two decades, been a critical vulnerability for many different military operations so if we can make us less dependent on that, we are both reducing emissions, but at the same time, increasing the military effectiveness, the resilience of our troops,” the NATO chief added. “So, so we are working on that with different projects to look into how we can make our militaries greener and less dependent on fossil fuels.”


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/bad-idea-NATO-tanks-go-green%E2%80%94add-solar-panels-178751
 

Tyk

LE
I wonder how many Lithium batteries it would take to power a 70 tonne MBT

Depends on the range required, probably in the region of 70 tonnes to cross Salisbury plain :)

Refuelling will be fun and ever so fast!

I love the idea of covering a big armoured box which bangs about over rough ground, through trees and needs to be as subtle as possible with fragile, shiny solar panels, it's a concept worthy of heavy investment.
 
Suppose you could use hydrogen fuel cells...not as if Hydrogen isn't a bit volatile.
 
I wonder how many Lithium batteries it would take to power a 70 tonne MBT

M1 Tank carries approx 2000 litres of fuel at 35 MW/litre = 70 Billion Joules

Capacity of a Tesla Power 2 sustained output battery 210 kW/H = 760 Million Joules

Units required = 70B/760M = 92 (approx)

Unit mass approx 5 tonnes


Battery weight required 460 tonnes


60 % Discount for efficiency differences between ICE and Electric

weight of battery required.. 276 tonnes or 4 times the weight of the tank

Then Mr Stoltenberg is a Norse Economist and hence an ignorant Cnut
 

Cyberhacker

Old-Salt
M1 Tank carries approx 2000 litres of fuel at 35 MW/litre = 70 Billion Joules
Capacity of a Tesla Power 2 sustained output battery 210 kW/H = 760 Million Joules
Units required = 70B/760M = 92 (approx)
Time taken to refuel an M1 from an M978 HEMTT POL tanker, from empty... a few moments (600 gal/m transfer = over 2,200l/m)
Time taken to recharge that battery array... a LOT longer!
 
Time taken to refuel an M1 from an M978 HEMTT POL tanker, from empty... a few moments (600 gal/m transfer = over 2,200l/m)
Time taken to recharge that battery array... a LOT longer!
Recharging in the field. From mobile generators, which run on fossil fuel, and need towing to location, both requireing fossil fuel, time to refuel an all electric 70 ton MBT...not viable.

Or, a Main Battery pack change for a 70 Ton all electric MBT in the field....don't, just don't!
 
Recharging in the field. From mobile generators, which run on fossil fuel, and need towing to location, both requireing fossil fuel, time to refuel an all electric 70 ton MBT...not viable.

Or, a Main Battery pack change for a 70 Ton all electric MBT in the field....don't, just don't!
The MOD would just declare them 'Man portable' and tell any light role infantry nearby that it's now their problem.

They're already in the trials phase.
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As Kermit the Frog sang, 'It's not easy being green'. Perhaps we need to employ non-exploding explosives to reduce our carbon footprint?

'NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has suggested that by adding solar panels, tanks could become less reliant on fossil fuels and that will increase the resilience of troops and military operations.

'War, what is good for? Certainly not the environment, and as a result, the tanks rolling across Europe could soon be green, and not just the paint scheme. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has addressed the fact that the militaries of the world emit a considerable amount of greenhouse gases, and has called upon efforts for the tanks to go green by adding solar panels.

'Stoltenberg called up efforts to develop low-emitting vehicles at an online seminar titled New Ideas for NATO 2030. “NATO should do its part to look into how we can reduce emissions from military operations,” Stoltenberg said during the Chatham House. “We know that heavy battle tanks or fighter jets and naval ships, they consume a lot of fossil fuel and emit greenhouse or co2, greenhouse gases, co2, and therefore we do have to look into how we can reduce those emissions by alternative fuels, solar panels, and other ways of running our missions.”

'In addition to being good for the environment and reducing the carbon footprint, Stoltenberg has suggested that by adding solar panels, tanks could become less reliant on fossil fuels and that will increase the resilience of troops and military operations. “Along supply lines, vulnerable supply lines, as always, for two decades, been a critical vulnerability for many different military operations so if we can make us less dependent on that, we are both reducing emissions, but at the same time, increasing the military effectiveness, the resilience of our troops,” the NATO chief added. “So, so we are working on that with different projects to look into how we can make our militaries greener and less dependent on fossil fuels.”


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/bad-idea-NATO-tanks-go-green%E2%80%94add-solar-panels-178751
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