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#1
Just popped into my careers office and am really interested in joining the adjutant generals corps as a clerk.
I was wondering if there's a general opinion of clerks not being 'real' soldiers or anything like that? I would hope people realise it's a necessary role (at least I think it is!).

If anyone has any experience or advice on the AGC it would be very much appreciated, as my recruiter might be a bit biased on the matter.

many thanks, and a great forum you guys have made here.
 
#2
Sluggy's your man er lady to brief you on clerking. :p She can get a little shouty, mind so don't get nervous. :wink:
 

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#3
obruo said:
Just popped into my careers office and am really interested in joining the adjutant generals corps as a clerk.
I was wondering if there's a general opinion of clerks not being 'real' soldiers or anything like that? I would hope people realise it's a necessary role (at least I think it is!).

If anyone has any experience or advice on the AGC it would be very much appreciated, as my recruiter might be a bit biased on the matter.

many thanks, and a great forum you guys have made here.
I remember, years ago, wanting to be a clerk in the REME. So I did, and they transfered me to the SPS. Don't do it. If you want a life choose a different trade.

Not that I'm bitter at all.
 
#5
I was a Clerk for 5 years. You are excluded alot in your unit, i.e you dont get Naffi Breaks. Long Lunch breaks. Or sports afternoons

You are required to be first in an stay till your boss goes home. I was incharge of 187 personnel required to sort pay out. personal docs and everyday to day running of your office. And you have to be sturn with the higher ranks to get this acheived

If you dont have the personality to pull it off, it aint for you

On the other hand i deployed three times and went on many exercise around the world with the Artillery and did get to drive all the vehicles and load and fire a AS90 Gun. You do get included to that extent and i found it very enjoyable, because i love being busy.

You do get banter, like being called a pen pusher but then you just have to give it back.

I think its a very demanding job but you are office bound most of the time unless on exercise and you can get involved with your regt.

Hope this helps email me if you want specific question answers. Good luck
 
#6
jinxy said:
Costas Georgio was a clerk, there is a lesson somewhere to be learnt, noing that.
yeah course he was :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
#7
le_crabe_tambour said:
jinxy said:
Costas Georgio was a clerk, there is a lesson somewhere to be learnt, noing that.
yeah course he was :roll: :roll: :roll:
Wiki sux arrse as an educational/infornative tool. I always like to rely on first hand knowledge........................and seing as my SSM, 1 Regt AAC in 1980. said Costas was his company clerk, he being ex Para. You can kiss my hairy rusty sherrifs badge.
 
#8
jinxy said:
le_crabe_tambour said:
jinxy said:
Costas Georgio was a clerk, there is a lesson somewhere to be learnt, noing that.
yeah course he was :roll: :roll: :roll:
Wiki sux arrse as an educational/infornative tool. I always like to rely on first hand knowledge........................and seing as my SSM, 1 Regt AAC in 1980. said Costas was his company clerk, he being ex Para. You can kiss my hairy rusty sherrifs badge.
Getting it from your SSM by the way is not first hand infomation you uneducated cretin, the clue lies in the "first hand" part which means yourself :roll: and apart from your mongy tardboy spelling, "cos he said so"is no proof at all.
Try reading ( if you can read !! if not theres pictures you can look at ) "Firepower" the story of Colonel Callen and Angola by people that actually served in 1 Para with him.........f*cking nob
 
#9
le_crabe_tambour said:
jinxy said:
le_crabe_tambour said:
jinxy said:
Costas Georgio was a clerk, there is a lesson somewhere to be learnt, noing that.
yeah course he was :roll: :roll: :roll:
Wiki sux arrse as an educational/infornative tool. I always like to rely on first hand knowledge........................and seing as my SSM, 1 Regt AAC in 1980. said Costas was his company clerk, he being ex Para. You can kiss my hairy rusty sherrifs badge.
Getting it from your SSM by the way is not first hand infomation you uneducated cretin, the clue lies in the "first hand" part which means yourself :roll: and apart from your mongy tardboy spelling, "cos he said so"is no proof at all.
Try reading ( if you can read !! if not theres pictures you can look at ) "Firepower" the story of Colonel Callen and Angola by people that actually served in 1 Para with him.........f*cking nob
Yes yes yes, but you can still kiss may chockolate starfish.
 
#10
what a grown up reply !!!! by the way its spelt "chocolate" you mong
 
#12
Clerking has its rewards I imagine; you would be in a fairly privileged position of responsibility, knowing a lot of things before and about others. Also, a clerk has access to a wealth of information and administrative process, and with diligent application can make him/herself indispensible/very valued.
 
#13
I have served 25 years (and still serving) as a clerk. I have had my fair share of "soldiering" in a number of operational theatres - not just stuck in the office. That said, the fun factor within the SPS is rapidly fading away, along with our job responsibilities. If you want to be a clerk, join the RAF, if you want to do some soldiering, work all the hours, miss out on fun then join the SPS - volunteers are always wanted to do serve as a soldier/clerk because there are so many who are downgraded and unable to deploy - the fit ones then get double spammed. Whatever you decide, good luck.
 
#14
Ruckerwocman said:
Sluggy's your man er lady to brief you on clerking. :p She can get a little shouty, mind so don't get nervous. :wink:
She's a bit busy fire-bombing Nottingham today but she'll be in later!!
 
#15
Joy83 said:
I was a Clerk for 5 years. You are excluded alot in your unit, i.e you dont get Naffi Breaks. Long Lunch breaks. Or sports afternoons

You are required to be first in an stay till your boss goes home. I was incharge of 187 personnel required to sort pay out. personal docs and everyday to day running of your office. And you have to be sturn with the higher ranks to get this acheived

If you dont have the personality to pull it off, it aint for you

On the other hand i deployed three times and went on many exercise around the world with the Artillery and did get to drive all the vehicles and load and fire a AS90 Gun. You do get included to that extent and i found it very enjoyable, because i love being busy.

You do get banter, like being called a pen pusher but then you just have to give it back.

I think its a very demanding job but you are office bound most of the time unless on exercise and you can get involved with your regt.

Hope this helps email me if you want specific question answers. Good luck
Can I send you a PM as well to find out which units you were in? Excluded? I don't think so. Oh, and can you tell me when you passed your litterisy eggsam?

Many thanks in anticipation of a speedy response,

Sluggy x

OP, if you need anything specific answering, please PM me.

P.S. I didn't firebomb anything, you can't prove nuffink!
 
#16
Original_Punk said:
I have served 25 years (and still serving) as a clerk. I have had my fair share of "soldiering" in a number of operational theatres - not just stuck in the office. That said, the fun factor within the SPS is rapidly fading away, along with our job responsibilities. If you want to be a clerk, join the RAF, if you want to do some soldiering, work all the hours, miss out on fun then join the SPS - volunteers are always wanted to do serve as a soldier/clerk because there are so many who are downgraded and unable to deploy - the fit ones then get double spammed. Whatever you decide, good luck.
Good point about the RAF.

Obruo; like OP I have served a looooong time (23 years) as a Clerk and have been fortunate (or unfortunate) to have served almost here there and everywhere, but I would strongly recommend (although it does pain me to do so 8O )that you also check out the RAF TG17 discipline as well as RN Log(Pers). See what the other 2 Services can also offer you before making an informed decision. Best of luck either way.
 
#17
TG17 doors are closed atm unfortunately. I would assume due to a massive influx of ex SPS personnel.

With regards to AGC(SPS) The Corps suffers severely from heiracry peer pressure and desperate lack of indentity. That coupled with mid to top level management caring more for their own career than that of their soldiers, makes it quite an unpleasant place for all but the strongest of wills.

That said... Get the right Detachment and you'll have a fcuking blast!!!

I'm interested to know what the careers office said to you to make it appealing. You should be aware that we are undermanned beyond belief and the AFCO have specific groups they have to recruit to.

I'd like to bet there are MANY of us on here that can poo poo half the things you have been told about SPS opportunities.

Another post for my SO2 to hold against me come boarding time...JOY!

*EDIT and to answer your initial question, no we're not considered real soldiers, yes we are frowned upon, called fat lazy wasters, Biffs, shiney ARRSes, Pricks, Useless, Homo's etc, by just about everyone that has no idea how hard we have work, which unfortunately for us, is most of the unit. You harden to it eventually though :)
 
#18
I'll say this, as it's all I know.

The clerk in my department manages 103 people. The other departments (despite being smaller!) have two clerks.
He is the first into work, offers sound JPA advice (amongst all else) all day long. He personally found out that a colleague and I had missed out on back pay to the sum of £4000 and squared it away before we'd even heard about it.
He is a genuinely well-respected and very well-liked bloke amongst the lads. Any "shiny-arse" comments are very tongue in cheek, as he just tonight returned from the 900 mile Lands End - John 'O Groats cycle.

Our man is the anti-thesis of the "lazy clerk" thread that appears to pop up so often. Fantastic lad, never leaves before the OC (which is more often than not 2100 at the earliest), always has a smile on his face, sense of humour to be envious of and is NEVER left out of anything we get up to, although rarely does he have enough energy left at the end of the day!


If you want to be a clerk and match the challenges it brings (of which I am not at expert) then fair play to you. Our clerk gives and takes banter in his stride, such is his character, but is very much an integral personality in both work and play life.

To be honest, how you are perceived will come very much down to how you act, perform your job and try to integrate yourself.


Good luck to you.
 
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