Class War anyone?

#1
And there you were thinking that Labour had abandoned that as a election vote winner.

Not a bit of it: Harperson has had her way after all and Denham can start spouting stuff like this:

"New trends are emerging linked to the way that race and class together shape people's lives and this makes the situation much more complex. That does not mean that we should reduce our efforts to tackle racism and promote race equality but we must avoid a one dimensional debate that assumes all minority ethnic people are disadvantaged. The landscape has changed and we have to make sure that our efforts are tackling problems of today and not those of the past.

"We are committed to tackling inequality and disadvantage wherever it exists. If the cause is racism and discrimination we will challenge racism and discrimination. If the cause of disadvantage is social class, we will promote opportunity. And if the cause is a combination of racism and social class we will tackle both together.

"We are working towards building a society where regardless of class, race, beliefs or anything else: in every community, in every corner of the country - we are on people's side. No favours. No privileges. No special interest groups. Just fairness."


http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/corporate/1432659

Fine sounding words. The trouble is that the kind of hugely dangerous levelling-down "fairness" bollox Labour has in mind using social class as a key measure of "equality" is guaranteed to create the conditions that bring final ruin to any society stupid enough to try it
 
#3
Bouillabaisse said:
And the BBC reported this this morning as factual news without rebuttal or reference to alternative viewpoints.
Really? If so they are at risk of having broken their own charter. On what bulletin / website / program was this? We should email them about it.
 

seaweed

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#4
... Govt to dish out free laptops so that the chav recipients can take them down the pub and flog them for money to buy cannabis .. or have I missed something?
 

Bouillabaisse

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#5
Bazzinho1977 said:
Bouillabaisse said:
And the BBC reported this this morning as factual news without rebuttal or reference to alternative viewpoints.
Really? If so they are at risk of having broken their own charter. On what bulletin / website / program was this? We should email them about it.
Radio 4, 0800 news.
 

RP578

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#6
I think there's been a deliberate misreading of what he's said. He is simply stating that a white working class person can be more disadvantaged in our society than someone from an ethnic minority.


Ethnic minorities 'no longer always disadvantaged'


Being black or Asian in the UK no longer means you will be automatically disadvantaged, Communities Secretary John Denham will say in a speech later.

He says progress made since 2000 means that, while racial discrimination still exists, disadvantage is now more linked to poverty, class and identity.

Mr Denham says the problems of white working class areas must be tackled.

The government is trying to get a major equalities bill through Parliament before the election.
 
#7
"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others", would appear to be the motto of "nulabour"!
 
#8
That is how they are spinning it but it is gross untruth.

Harman saved Gordon Brown and the price of that was that her vile "Equality Bill" went forward.

That will place a legal duty upon all public bodies – Whitehall departments, NHS trusts, police, schools, councils etc etc– to take steps to address the "gap" between social classes when drawing up policies and allocating financial resources.

There is only one way to do that and that will be to discriminate against those considered to be of "higher" socio-economic class.

Having been unable to close the gap over their last 12 years of Government by raising the game and aspirations of their client voters despite huge amounts spent, they aim to drag the middle classes down.

Stupid, evil politics.
 
#9
Response to the Lozells riot when Blair was advised by his experts that the multicultural experiment had failed ?

First toy with a new buzz word "Interculturalism" then appease the whites when strength of feeling (eg Wootton Basset and Luton) finally makes Labour properly nervous about the imposed balkanization of UK (especially England).

Labour always attributes lack of achievement to disadvantage. They seem stubbornly wedded to the idea that if all start with the same opportunity the winners will be proportionately represented according to class and ethnicity. That will not happen. EG At the end of it you will still see a lot of Afro Caribbeans amongst the best athletes and boxers but pretty much absent from the top swimmers league. Genetics.

You may well see proportionately more Afro Caribeans dying in custody (positional asphyxia being one of their weaknesses) and dare I say it a greater tendency to have to be restarined in custody.

It is how it is. Just give us a country where the harder you work the more money you make and the truly incapacitated are looked after but dole scroungers are not.
 
#10
Class war is a political strategy that's been serving crisis stricken politicians well since the Homo Sapiens killed off the Neanderthals 30,000 years ago. Pick a minority that folks don't like much and blame it for all your own mistakes. You'll then be on your way to a thousand year Reich in no time at all.

Here are some false quotes by prominent lefties:-

We must destroy the Jews using taxation as a weapon
Jews cannot be left to run things on their own
He's a Jew boy who's used to being waited on, not serving other people
Your task, if you choose to accept it, is to replace 'Jews' with 'men', 'City of London' and 'Tory' to obtain the correct quotes.

I can't imagine Gordon is planning a holocaust for the toffs within the next six months. But we all know what can happen when desperate parties indulge in the politics of hatred and persecution. Fred the Shred having his own, personal Kristallnacht may just be the beginning.
 

maninblack

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#11
Blogg said:
And there you were thinking that Labour had abandoned that as a election vote winner.

Not a bit of it: Harperson has had her way after all and Denham can start spouting stuff like this:

"New trends are emerging linked to the way that race and class together shape people's lives and this makes the situation much more complex. That does not mean that we should reduce our efforts to tackle racism and promote race equality but we must avoid a one dimensional debate that assumes all minority ethnic people are disadvantaged. The landscape has changed and we have to make sure that our efforts are tackling problems of today and not those of the past.

"We are committed to tackling inequality and disadvantage wherever it exists. If the cause is racism and discrimination we will challenge racism and discrimination. If the cause of disadvantage is social class, we will promote opportunity. And if the cause is a combination of racism and social class we will tackle both together.

"We are working towards building a society where regardless of class, race, beliefs or anything else: in every community, in every corner of the country - we are on people's side. No favours. No privileges. No special interest groups. Just fairness."


http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/corporate/1432659

Fine sounding words. The trouble is that the kind of hugely dangerous levelling-down "fairness" bollox Labour has in mind using social class as a key measure of "equality" is guaranteed to create the conditions that bring final ruin to any society stupid enough to try it
I think that you will find this used to be called COMMUNISM in the days when we hid in holes in the German soil and waited for Ivan to come over the fence eating babies.

It has been the aim of the Labour Party since the 1950s to turn us into a communist utopia based on 6th form immature politics of white bad, black good.....rich bad, poor good with special praised saved for those who suckle on the state teat rather than graft.
 
#12
Harperson is a public school girl(St Pauls),so why is she climbing on this bandwaggon.Also related to Lord Lonford!
 
#13
Guilt
 
#14
muhandis89 said:
Harperson is a public school girl(St Pauls),so why is she climbing on this bandwaggon.Also related to Lord Lonford!
Does not that make her proof of the advantages of being born upper class?

Someone with no morals and limited intellect can become a government minister, because she was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

While us peasants have to work hard for less reward.
 
#15
Blogg said:
And there you were thinking that Labour had abandoned that as a election vote winner.

Not a bit of it: Harperson has had her way after all and Denham can start spouting stuff like this:

"New trends are emerging linked to the way that race and class together shape people's lives and this makes the situation much more complex. That does not mean that we should reduce our efforts to tackle racism and promote race equality but we must avoid a one dimensional debate that assumes all minority ethnic people are disadvantaged. The landscape has changed and we have to make sure that our efforts are tackling problems of today and not those of the past.

"We are committed to tackling inequality and disadvantage wherever it exists. If the cause is racism and discrimination we will challenge racism and discrimination. If the cause of disadvantage is social class, we will promote opportunity. And if the cause is a combination of racism and social class we will tackle both together.

"We are working towards building a society where regardless of class, race, beliefs or anything else: in every community, in every corner of the country - we are on people's side. No favours. No privileges. No special interest groups. Just fairness."


http://www.communities.gov.uk/news/corporate/1432659

Fine sounding words. The trouble is that the kind of hugely dangerous levelling-down "fairness" bollox Labour has in mind using social class as a key measure of "equality" is guaranteed to create the conditions that bring final ruin to any society stupid enough to try it
What a load of tosh.

The "people" know full well there are favours, privileges and special interest groups, and not least because "people" call favours in, demand privileges and are members of special interest groups.

As for fairness, there ain't no such thing this side of death and it is not proven that it exists the other side either.
 
#16
muhandis89 said:
Harperson is a public school girl(St Pauls),so why is she climbing on this bandwaggon.Also related to Lord Lonford!
Will nobody rid us of the meddlesome High Priestess.
 
#17
"We are committed to tackling inequality and disadvantage wherever it exists. If the cause is racism and discrimination we will challenge racism and discrimination. If the cause of disadvantage is social class, we will promote opportunity".
Sounds to me that Labour have raided the script of "Three Amigos" for their policy. :)
 
#18
Blogg said:
That will place a legal duty upon all public bodies – Whitehall departments, NHS trusts, police, schools, councils etc etc– to take steps to address the "gap" between social classes when drawing up policies and allocating financial resources.
Already happening. My local Trust has a "Health Inequalities" department (not to mention all the outreach to Black & Minority Ethnic Women programmes) which aims to stop the disadvantaged having worse health than those better off.

It does actually make sense as a more generally healthy population will end up costing us less in both the sort and long term than is being spent on these projects.

However a lot of the health issues are self-inflicted*. There's not an awful lot of TB and other ailments brought on by (let's say) poor housing or working down t'pit. What a lot of it springs from is incredibly poor diet & I don't mean from cheap food but from stuff which lacks nutrition, judging by the lard-arrses I see in the local Chavda going round on their mobility scooters with trolleys full of junk.

It's all very well to say this kind of education is needed at home, but sadly the parents & up to a point grandparents have never been taught about being healthy so what hope do the kids have. Somehow it needs to be done or we're breeding a whole new generation who are incapable of anything except filling their ravening maws with blue pop, micro chaips & crispy pancakes...

*Saying that I'm a smoker & probably drink too much. But I don't need a stick or scooter to get down the shops & still play a bit of rugby!
 
#19
maninblack said:
I think that you will find this used to be called COMMUNISM in the days when we hid in holes in the German soil and waited for Ivan to come over the fence eating babies.
I knew the Russkies were sick but paedophilia is just wrong, even if the babies ARE eating fences.
 

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