class 1 Operators Course 23rd Feb - 9th March

#2
watto135 said:
Any Fellow arrsers on the course

Any one got any ideas on what the new course will entail

cheers Watto
If it's only two weeks then does that mean lots of beer tokens?
 
#3
PD

dont really know got a some sort of JI's through that says not need for doss bag or webbing or helmet, but bring cold weather kit.

most exercise stuff is classroom based !!! take that as you will i dont know what to expect now
 
#4
watto135 said:
Any one got any ideas on what the new course will entail
I've not seen anything official (and I've been trying) but Cpl J mentioned ECDL topics on his course and polar69 mentioned sharepoint. So I'd expect many IT lessons, maybe a bit too basic, I hope I'm wrong.

If you think someone is treating the TA with contempt please let me know, I've a suspicion that one of the instructors is the sole cause of the crap TA class 1 courses. He's survived years of complaints.
 
#5
polar said:
watto135 said:
Any one got any ideas on what the new course will entail
I've not seen anything official (and I've been trying) but Cpl J mentioned ECDL topics on his course and polar69 mentioned sharepoint. So I'd expect many IT lessons, maybe a bit too basic, I hope I'm wrong.
Did mine a couple of years ago and this was the case. On the course there was a mixture of skill levels on computer. I use one everyday as part and parcel of my job so lessons on how to use word, excel and powerpoint were not exactly riviting. There were a few of us who spent the best part of three days playing solitaire and drinking brews. I came off that course with a 30 a day coffee habit!
 
#7
forniup said:
I use one everyday as part and parcel of my job so lessons on how to use word, excel and powerpoint were not exactly riviting.
A number of them were lifted from the regular BSS/Class 3 RSTO's and the same paragraphs were randomly placed into TA RSTO's such as AS OP class 3, RS Op Class 1 and YofS(V).
 

scaryspice

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#8
This is NOT the same course as anyone did "a few years ago". It's a new course. Don't listen to anyone who tells you what cr@p their course was because it will be irrelevant.

You won't find details on some website you can click on on the internet - surprise, surprise. However details of the course are on the SOinC(A) intranet which you can access at your TAC or get your PSI to print off for you.

born_to_soldier - you're not talking about the same course clearly since this isn't a 3 week course.

Polar - not everyone is employed in IT so yes I expect some of the course might be "a bit basic" for you - but we don't make assumptions about peoples' civvy jobs.

They aren't called RSTOs any more. Haven't I explained all this before?

I'm going to stop replying to these threads because I don't know why HQSOinC(A) bothers to put out any information. No-one reads it, no-one bothers to look on the intranet for it and no-one passes it down the chain of command. You'd all rather ask on a "rumour" site and believe whatever anyone says.

I give up with the TA Corps I really do.

watto - this is not aimed specifically at you! Drop a PM to polar69 who went on the Dec course and ask him about it. He can actually speak from a position of authority as he's been on the same format of course as you are going on. I hope you enjoy it too!
 
#10
cheers Scarey

Just not much info sent through at my end, thats all Intranet whats that no Seiously only kidding we dont get access but polar might be able to get access for me.

thanks any how looking forward to it
 
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scaryspice said:
You won't find details on some website you can click on on the internet - surprise, surprise. However details of the course are on the SOinC(A) intranet which you can access at your TAC or get your PSI to print off for you.
Why not? Many details of regular IS Eng training and TA trade training is available on the internet (ArmyNET)

scaryspice said:
Polar - not everyone is employed in IT so yes I expect some of the course might be "a bit basic" for you - but we don't make assumptions about peoples' civvy jobs.
WTF! Your saying being able to use the internet, intranet, sharepoint etc is advanced/class 1 skill????? Its ironic you then moan about nobody using the HQSOinC(A) intranet site.
 
#12
scaryspice said:
This is NOT the same course as anyone did "a few years ago". It's a new course. Don't listen to anyone who tells you what cr@p their course was because it will be irrelevant.
I didn't say my Class 1 course was cr@p. Infact for the most part it was an enjoyable course and I learned a lot. EW, OJT and the ex phase were good I just pointed out that some of the PC stuff was very basic. IMO too basic for Class1.
scaryspice said:
You won't find details on some website you can click on on the internet - surprise, surprise. However details of the course are on the SOinC(A) intranet which you can access at your TAC or get your PSI to print off for you.
The original poster asked if any Arsers had been on the course and what it was like, he got some answers much like if he were to ask his muckers in the bar. If he is going on his Class 1 he will have been in long enough to know that courses evolve/change regularly.
scaryspice said:
born_to_soldier - you're not talking about the same course clearly since this isn't a 3 week course.

Polar - not everyone is employed in IT so yes I expect some of the course might be "a bit basic" for you - but we don't make assumptions about peoples' civvy jobs.
I'm not employed in IT but lessons on excel, word and powerpoint? How basic do you want it? If people are getting this on Class1 training then surely there is a massive skills gap in Class 3&2 soldiers.

scaryspice said:
They aren't called RSTOs any more. Haven't I explained all this before?

I'm going to stop replying to these threads because I don't know why HQSOinC(A) bothers to put out any information. No-one reads it, no-one bothers to look on the intranet for it and no-one passes it down the chain of command. You'd all rather ask on a "rumour" site and believe whatever anyone says.

I give up with the TA Corps I really do.
Getting info from Blandford before a course is difficult at the best of times. In my experiance every time I have been on a course there has been little information prior to the course of content.

scaryspice said:
watto - this is not aimed specifically at you! Drop a PM to polar69 who went on the Dec course and ask him about it. He can actually speak from a position of authority as he's been on the same format of course as you are going on. I hope you enjoy it too!
Hang the fcuk on you just said to NOT to get info from a "rumour" site yet your directing him to do just that. Isn't it supposed to be passed down the CoC from HQSOinC(A)?

Look for some reason people don't get the information before there course or they just want a bit of an insight from others who have completed the course. The same as if someone was going on ops would ask what it was like. This has happened in bars in TA Centres and NAAFI bars long before this site existed. Don't get over excited about it. If anyone has any sence they know to take everything said with a pinch of salt. Courses/Ops change.

Anyway, watto hope you enjoy the course. Let me know what it was like :wink:
 
#13
scaryspice said:
You won't find details on some website you can click on on the internet - surprise, surprise. However details of the course are on the SOinC(A) intranet which you can access at your TAC or get your PSI to print off for you.
The original poster asked if any Arsers had been on the course and what it was like, he got some answers much like if he were to ask his muckers in the bar. If he is going on his Class 1 he will have been in long enough to know that courses evolve/change regularly.[/quote]

Contray to scaries (and class 2-1 workbook V1.3) advice, Formal Training Statement 3307 is not available online. The only class 1 FTS available to download is the new techs one

The ArmyNET SOinC(A) site is well out of date, as is the main TDT (SOinC(A)) both point to old trades. The TA section is current but missing the doc above, also try this ArmyNET Sharepoint
.
 
#15
polar69 said:
Guys, there were no office applications taught on my course
Not the point now!! I just bit at the "I give up with the TA" comment only for scary to advise watto to ask someone on here not the CoC!
 
#17
forniup said:
polar69 said:
Guys, there were no office applications taught on my course
Not the point now!! I just bit at the "I give up with the TA" comment only for scary to advise watto to ask someone on here not the CoC!
To be fair, Scary has done a lot for the TA trade training.

But polar69's comment is incorrect, he did Sharepoint on his class 1, thats part of orifice.
 

scaryspice

LE
Moderator
#19
Polar - I don't think Sharepoint is "basic". if you work in IT it might be but most people won't think so (or have ever heard of it or used it I would suggest?). You are absolutely right that the Cl 1 Operator FTS isn't on the intranet where it should be - my apologies - this is a definite oversight and I hope it will be corrected very soon. However as Units were involved in helping to produce the FTS copies should be available through the CoC anyway. (stop laughing at the back - I'm noting your names!)

The comment about the general out-of-dateness of the TDT part of the intranet site is also a fair one. However as you note, the TA bit (such as it is) is up to date.....

Forniup - I was simply trying to point out that the Class 1 course you were describing "several years ago" is not the one being run now. So you asking me "how basic do you want it" and then quoting learning Word and Excel on Class 1 is out of date as I pointed out. Polar69 seems to have confirmed that with his comment about Office applications (Sharepoint excepted) not being taught.

You'll have to forgive my frustration with this whole thing. A LOT of work has gone into producing this course (mostly by others - not me) and every time there's a thread about Class 1 all the people who had bad experiences with the previous Class 1 courses jump on the "it's all basic cr@p and not properly planned" bandwagon. I should be used to it by now and just let it go, but for the sake of the people who put in the work to get us where we are now, I don't. The "ask polar69" comment was slightly tongue in cheek to be honest. But again if watto and others want to hear from someone on here what the course is REALLY like as opposed to rumour and supposition from those who haven't been on this current course I simply wanted to point them to someone who HAS actually been.

I hope Watto and anyone else on the next course has a good time, learns something worthwhile and comes back here to tell us that Class 1 courses can actually be quite good.
 
#20
Scarey

Just a quick question been informed by SPSI that all new class one courses will now contain BOWMAN is this correct you can PM me with it if you like just wondered if i need to bring any Bowman stuff thats all
 

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