Civvy Police punch up

#3
Xwhitetop said:
This is doing the rounds on other Police forums on the net.
What do you reckon??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huJcDMZqb9c
Thought the police did very well and I was suprised how many supportive/pro police comments that were attached to the film. None were negative. I don't care what you do, you don't swing at/punch a female police officer, (IMO), drunk or not. Had he connected, she would still be cleaning her clock now.

Expandable baton however, continue to show how useless it is against someone who is under the influence.

The only negative comment I would make is that the bloke managed to get up off the floor, despite being held by 3 officers, two of which were female.

Had they possessed the physical strength to restrain the drunk, he might not of got the chance to re-arrange her makeup.
 
#4


Well done to the police. Personally I would have been tempted to use that

baton on his head. Incidents like this must help build a good case for the

taser. I have always had my doubts about women officers being put into

situations like this.....but....good on 'em.
 
#5
Good on the Plod,that Bloke was an absolute Tit...Although it could of done with a bit more Raw Aggression on the Bobby's behalf,once that bloke went down he should of stayed down,but i suppose that all boil's down to Police Recruitment and what perticular "Type" of person they go for these day's... :)

















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#6
I'm not sure I could do that job. I'd have been using the baton and my fists on the other muppets too.
 
#7
Very poor 'hands on' skills by those officers. Especially the women, but let's not go there.
 
#8
Police where very restrained, the knobs shouting should have been locked up as well, when they surge forward after repeated warnings that CS would have been emptied in as many faces as possible if it was me.

Notty I've seen an extendable baton snatched out a Bobbies hands and bent in front of him by stoned meathead who looked like he was breast fed steroids as a baby. That guy was only brought down when the single crewed Bobbie got assistance from 5 Bouncers ( My Bad, Door Supervisors) Who literally weighed him down under over 80 stone of muscle and he was still struggling when the TSG got to scene.
 
#11
I know I'm fik but any reason why this is in the AGC etc forum?
 
#12
Good effort 7/10 for effectivness. Policewomen have their place, but if they can't handle a minor public order incident...............

Cover Officer was O.K but as already posted by thieftaker my CS would have been almost empty.

Not the best example of Police at work. It does show one of the difficulties faced with restraint to provocation, use of force, public perception.
 
#13
From a civvy, with only family connections to the Plod (father is ex-Police), I'd say well done chaps, it all looked very restrained to me. In the light of the Sky News special on binge drinking and assaults by tanked-up scrotes this morning, a lot more of this wouldn't go amiss! Do we know if he was actually charged with anything?
 
#14
Damn good show. Not enough force deployed soon enough though. When he was down, he should have been kept down. They held onto the situation though without other parties getting involved, so that was a positive. These little tussles though sometimes have career ending potential, either through injury or legal causes, is it any wonder they try softly, softly first, rather than givng the chap a well deserved vibram boot print where it does the most good?
 
#15
Good training vid anyway. Pity the officer who was keeping the crowd back wasn't more involved in actually detaining the suspect. He seemed to know his drills. Gave the suspect a cheeky facefull at the 30 sec mark too. Nice touch.
 
#16
Very restrained

Think Id have employed a bit more verbal stunning at the crowd,

possibly stop pi$$ing about with the fat bloke on the ground and get the cuffs on.
 
#17
nottyash said:
Xwhitetop said:
This is doing the rounds on other Police forums on the net.
What do you reckon??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huJcDMZqb9c
Thought the police did very well and I was suprised how many supportive/pro police comments that were attached to the film. None were negative. I don't care what you do, you don't swing at/punch a female police officer, (IMO), drunk or not. Had he connected, she would still be cleaning her clock now.

Expandable baton however, continue to show how useless it is against someone who is under the influence.

The only negative comment I would make is that the bloke managed to get up off the floor, despite being held by 3 officers, two of which were female.

Had they possessed the physical strength to restrain the drunk, he might not of got the chance to re-arrange her makeup.
I think its safe to say he was getting love taps. Its suprising but people are scared of doing damage.

If you rrrrrap your baton out you should use it. Properly aggressively until the person stops or goes down. Aim to strike using the last 3 inches of the baton and that fcuker Hurts BIG TIME!

He should never have been allowed to get up and when the bobby started dragging him about the other two should have put him through the floor. Scared of getting hurt... IN A FIGHT! Hence them backing off and giving him a breather. You either go at it full pelt or you don't. Anything in between runs in the dangerous ground of allowing the piece of sh1t to get the upper hand.

Get on top and apply weight on his head by lying on him. 12+ stone plus body armour squashing head into floor, Doesn't require anything fancy except a beer gut.
 
#18
Agree with Bad_Crow - expandable baton is good if its racked out properly and used with full power (however effect of baton is not guaranteed against those excessively drunk/drugged up).

As an ex-plod, we were instructed to use max power when using it. However, I got trained (and much preferred to carry & use) expanding PR-24 - great bit of kit, good visual deterrant, loads of neat tricks you can do with it too and when swung properly onto target area, they're going nowhere.

Blog done - suppose I'd better get back to work... well, drinking coffee.
 
#19
Backseat driving says a rugby tackle by a girly officers may have brought chavster down, otherwise well done and very restrained I say.

Trotsky
 
#20
As a serving Robert her in Norn Iron, the guys in the video where VERY restrained.This works for me, hard fast and aggressive takedowns followed by resolute and affirmative actions there after. (I personally do it like this to help minimise the risk of injury to myself, the scrote and MOP)
"move back" only works when people are sober and even then not very well, "other officers" (cant say females anymore the PC Taliban will have me sacked) not reacting/using PPE properly, my 11 yr old son could strike harder with that baton!
If you make/issue a threat to use CS dont keep saying I'm gonna use it, I'm gonna use it, just do so, a good PNB entry and after care and your well covered. Although I have been told I'm too "militaristic and a little aggressive" by some of my colleagues :)
 

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