Civvy firm to be paid £1bn to recruit soldiers?

the_boy_syrup

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#2
Has this come from the MoD's "you couldn't make it up" files?
 
#3
'The MoD believes that civilians will help it improve the quality of recruits'

How? I very much doubt they can influence the type of peole who will come through the door. It sounds as if someone has fallen for the mistaken idea that the private sector is somehow better at this than the public sector.
 
#4
Surely this can't be for real ?

How much were the Govt hoping to save by cutting jobs in the Armed Forces ?

Some stupid but well connected HR company is going to make a mint, fail totally and then head into the sunset with our cash and a hell of a mess left behind them,. Then there'll be a Govt inquiry, nobody will be blamed and we'll go back to the old system.

How can people be so fukcing stupid ????
 
#5
Probably result in a nice post retirement job for some lads!
 
#6
'The MoD believes that civilians will help it improve the quality of recruits'

How? I very much doubt they can influence the type of peole who will come through the door. It sounds as if someone has fallen for the mistaken idea that the private sector is somehow better at this than the public sector.
I doubt it as well.

Really why would you be more likely to sign up to a private sector recruiter as opposed to a military one?
 
#8
Officials at Army Land Command in Wiltshire claim that the deal will save the Service £250 million overall over a decade by removing well-paid senior NCOs and officers from backroom work “inputting data into computers”.
Is that the end of TRHJ then? Personally I thought it was about the one "piece of kit" that was any good.
 
#9
20% savings over 10 years doesn't seem to be a very exacting target for such a high-risk scheme.

Or am I reading this completely wrong and the reality is "we will save £250m from the uniformed pay budget by spending £1b on out-sourcing."? Which would be classic MoD thinking.
 
#10
If the standard of recruits in the middle of a massive recession with an exciting television war ongoing isn't high enough for the MOD now then it never will be. Once we're back to marching up and down the square and the economy's recovered then interest in the Army's only going to go one way. Whoever made this decision should be first in line to offer up savings to the pay budget.
 
#11
20% savings over 10 years doesn't seem to be a very exacting target for such a high-risk scheme.

Or am I reading this completely wrong and the reality is "we will save £250m from the uniformed pay budget by spending £1b on out-sourcing."? Which would be classic MoD thinking.
Its a billion over 10 years, so I assume the military thinks it will save 1.25 billion. Its bound to work just look at the success of Annington homes...
 
#12
If the standard of recruits in the middle of a massive recession with an exciting television war ongoing isn't high enough for the MOD now then it never will be. Once we're back to marching up and down the square and the economy's recovered then interest in the Army's only going to go one way. Whoever made this decision should be first in line to offer up savings to the pay budget.
Who made that decision probably wont be in the same position when it all goes pear shaped, so will never be held accountable
 
#13
I think it's to free up 2 out of 3 SNCO recruiters to get off their arrses and stop lying to people that "you can be a mechanic in the PWRR!" and get back to fighting wars while civvies do the paperwork (that said SNCO recruiters hate) involved in getting little Johnny off his Uniformed Public Service course and into the Army.

Incidentally, if you think this is a waste of money you should have a closer look at the money wasted every day in paying for ART teams to go into schools to provide free entertainment and inter-house competitions in schools full of people (pupils and staff) who aren't interested one bit in 'The Offer'...not to mention how much we plough into EM recruitment. Or the fact look-at-life courses are routinely filled with the rat bag kids schools want to get rid of during OFSTED week.
 
#14
Its a billion over 10 years, so I assume the military thinks it will save 1.25 billion. Its bound to work just look at the success of Annington homes...
I don't think that's even the obvious on-the-face-of-it reading - I assumed the claim was a £250m saving from what would have been a £1.25b budget. Over the 10 years, of course.

But I've been at this a long time. Hence the sarcastic alternative.

Edited to add: do we really spend £125m per year on recruiting? Just for the Army?
 
#15
#16
20% savings over 10 years doesn't seem to be a very exacting target for such a high-risk scheme.

Or am I reading this completely wrong and the reality is "we will save £250m from the uniformed pay budget by spending £1b on out-sourcing."? Which would be classic MoD thinking.
That's the way I read it.
 
#17
I don't think that's even the obvious on-the-face-of-it reading - I assumed the claim was a £250m saving from what would have been a £1.25b budget. Over the 10 years, of course.

But I've been at this a long time. Hence the sarcastic alternative.

Edited to add: do we really spend £125m per year on recruiting? Just for the Army?
I seem to remember its advertising being 10s of millions (I don't know if that included in the 1 billion).

It won't make any difference we all know it will end up costing more and remove decent postings from serving soldiers.
 

dockers

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#18
I notice that the "usual suspects" are involved in this. What's the odds on it costing more - let's say at least half again.

"In an exclusive interview, Brigadier Jolyon Jackson, the Army’s director recruiting and training (operations), told Recruiter that Capita and Prospector Group were about to enter into “detailed dialogue” with the Army. The Prospector consortia consists of Serco, Logica and comunications company AMV Group. The make-up of the Capita consortia has not been revealed."

Source:Army goes to private sector for recruitment | News | Recruiter
 
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#19
If I was a young lad (or lass) sat opposite a civvy in a recruiting office, and said civvy was telling me how good the Army was and what a great career choice it was. I would be thinking, if it's so good, why isn't this bloke in the Army?
 
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