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Civvies wearing military rank

#1
I saw an ambulance chief on the TV the other night and he was wearing Field Marshall's ranks on his shoulders. On the same programme was a ambulance para-medic who was wearing crowns on her shoulders. Do they really need to wear such rank badges? I note that non seem to be corporals or sergeants.

A couple of years ago I reas an article about two adjacent ambulance services in the Midlands. One was the worst performing in the country and the other was the best. The best performing ones wore plain green uniforms with no badges of rank displayed whilst the worst performing ones had lots of gold braid and officers rank badges.
 
#6
Some NHS Trusts use the pips to indicate senior medics, the police use sergeant chevrons. pips, crowns and i believe field marshall insignia to indicate rank.

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Not being in the military i don't see the issue so much as they are a uniformed service, not uniformed in the same manner as the armed forces but uniformed all the same, now if it was joe bloggs or pop diva wearing them as a fashion statement (Michael Jackson et all) then I'd take serious issue with it.
 
#7
It's not military rank though, is it? It's their own service specific rank that just happens to use same insignia. Captain paramedic means **** all to me as far as I am concerned.
 
#9
When I was a grade IV officer in St John's I had two pips (oh yes) but I doubt anybody mistook me for a rupert, I was too competent for that error to creep in.

Seriously though the army rank system is visually quick to learn and spot in a hurry, which is probably why most hierachical services use it or a variant thereof. What would you suggest to replace it?
 
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#11
Not being in the military i don't see the issue so much as they are a uniformed service, not uniformed in the same manner as the armed forces but uniformed all the same, now if it was joe bloggs or pop diva wearing them as a fashion statement (Michael Jackson et all) then I'd take serious issue with it.

They can wear whatever they like. Its their uniform and the badge is merely there to represent a position or role within their organisation.

Why get uptight about fashion? They have as much right to wear it as you have to object. Nobody owns the things.
 
#12
When I was a grade IV officer in St John's I had two pips (oh yes) but I doubt anybody mistook me for a rupert, I was too competent for that error to creep in.

Seriously though the army rank system is visually quick to learn and spot in a hurry, which is probably why most hierachical services use it or a variant thereof. What would you suggest to replace it?
those stars they give out at McDonalds look like a good idea.
 
#14
When I was a grade IV officer in St John's I had two pips (oh yes) but I doubt anybody mistook me for a rupert, I was too competent for that error to creep in.

Seriously though the army rank system is visually quick to learn and spot in a hurry, which is probably why most hierachical services use it or a variant thereof. What would you suggest to replace it?

A sort of headband ala John MacEnroe with a kind of plastic flower in it. The more you have the higher your rank until you end up with a Field Marshal that looks like he/she is wearing a 1940's bathing cap perhaps?
 
#19
I saw an ambulance chief on the TV the other night and he was wearing Field Marshall's ranks on his shoulders. On the same programme was a ambulance para-medic who was wearing crowns on her shoulders. Do they really need to wear such rank badges? I note that non seem to be corporals or sergeants.

A couple of years ago I reas an article about two adjacent ambulance services in the Midlands. One was the worst performing in the country and the other was the best. The best performing ones wore plain green uniforms with no badges of rank displayed whilst the worst performing ones had lots of gold braid and officers rank badges.
Last time I looked there was still a crown badge on my uniform.

It's a uniform with a recognised rank structure, just like the Police, but wearing three dots doesn't make me a Chief Inspector either. Not that any coppers have mistaken me for one..
 
#20
There must be a million bath stars, chevrons and laurel-type crowns in a big store run by some civil servant. They don't wear out, and when you hand your kit in the bling gets cut off and goes back to stores to keep costs down, rather than every government outfit having to pay for their own design.

A very senior bod arrived at a clandestine site he had eventually discovered he 'owned', unfortunately in dark uniform with silver braid, crowns and stars, and stayed in the motor while his driver asked me if I wanted him to don a civvy overcoat over the top. I said tell him to bring a clipboard and stick his hat on, anyone'll think it's another fire safety inspection.
 

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