Civvi Bill. Why not PQO?

Discussion in 'AGC, RAPTC and SASC' started by bogjockt, Jul 14, 2008.

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  1. bogjockt

    bogjockt Swinger

    Not needed thanks.
     
  2. Daytona955

    Daytona955 Crow

    Lol lol lol lol lol

    Please tell me this is a total whahhhhhhhhhh!!

    or are you a complete tosser???
     
  3. Shortty

    Shortty Old-Salt

    Maybe because you would be frontline effectively now as RMP, so the soldier element of the job is stronger than dr's and solicitors etc.

    Maybe because as civy cops we know civy law very well but don't know millitary law at all, or many of the other elements of RMP, e.g. route signing, PW handling, CP etc etc

    Or maybe because they don't really want to encourage cops to join the forces as you're stealing from one gvt sector to enhance another.

    There is also a huge difference between the skills of different cops. Some need their sgt there 24/7 to advise them, others can run on their own - it doesn't have quite the same level of standard qualification and minimum skill level as other careers do.

    That said, if i can slightly hijack this thread a touch. I'm getting v bored of civpol, v quickly. If i were to join RMPTA, and then in due course volunteer for tour, and ask for permanent transfer.. is this likely to happen, or are RMP different to infantry units? For what it's worth i have done a TA infantry CIC..
     
  4. western

    western Crow

    Ane here lies the problem with the modern civvy Bill. This guy really believes he is a Professional up there with Lawyers, Doctors and chartered this and that. Best comparison is LCpl and probationary PC; Cpl Class One with 'qualified' PC.

    As for RMP Officers they are neither fish nor foul, not professionals and not really officers in the true sense of the word as they tend to administer, supervise and manage rather than lead. I can see the case for many to be replaced by civvy HR managers but a PC right at the bottom of the Criminal Justice food chain really ought to keep their sense of perspective.
     
  5. Shiny_pips

    Shiny_pips Old-Salt

    I think you've missed the point; RMP officers are there to lead (in the army we call it command), wheras PQOs are very specialist individuals employed for their qualification alone - they do not routinely lead soldiers.
     
  6. Daytona955

    Daytona955 Crow

    I still think he was taking the piss. Even a civvy copper in the TA cannot be as stupid as his post makes him out to be!!!
     
  7. Biscuits_AB

    Biscuits_AB Guest

    Neither do RMP Officers.
     
  8. Biscuits_AB

    Biscuits_AB Guest

    I can name at least 20 who are.
     
  9. Daytona955

    Daytona955 Crow

    Awww Biccy-boy - did no-one lead you for all those years?
     
  10. Daytona955

    Daytona955 Crow

    Leave the TA SIB Section alone, don't pick on them just because they told you that you were far too old and out of date to join them!!!
     
  11. western

    western Crow

    No, I think you will find that he shared the company of administrators of questionable ability.
     
  12. Biscuits_AB

    Biscuits_AB Guest

    Having spent a considerable part of my regular Army life being f*cked about by clowns on a near daily basis......why the f*ck would I want to repeat process as a civvy and in my time off?
     
  13. Biscuits_AB

    Biscuits_AB Guest

    Yes they did. But none of them were RMP Officers.
     
  14. bogjockt

    bogjockt Swinger

    Well that's me slapped down eh?

    Shiny pips, point taken. I thought perhaps the leadership angle would be trained etc. however I would concede that doing this would go against the whole PQO thing. Cheers.

    As for the entry re. Doctors, lawyers etc I thought I did say that I would not seek to compare the positions. I have however given evidence in court and been challenged on decisions by solicitors who have had far more time than I did to review the facts and all they can do is call you a liar!

    Ladies and Gents, you seem to have taken this question to heart. Topic for discussion: nah, if you don't like it you just rip in! To the pi%s rippers....good job, I am humbled but your obviously superior intellects! Good to see open minds!

    To those of you who did state the valid points: cheers. Always willing to listen (and learn).
     
  15. western

    western Crow

    Bogjockt, I for one am more than willing to discuss, but lets start with your explanation as to why you feel a PC has comparison with a PQO?