Civpol to RMP

#1
If anyone has recently made this transfer across, as I'm hoping to do, could you please PM me or leave a comment on what your experiences have been. Cheers
 
#2
The grass isnt always greener pal. Dont do it.
 
#3
I appreciate your comment; I've made the decision I want to already; Have been in CID far too long and sick and tired of dealing with juveniles, social services, smack heads and victims with more pre-cons than the defendants! Being an accredited detective I could always re-join civ pol later on if things didnt work out
 
#4
I appreciate your comment; I've made the decision I want to already; Have been in CID far too long and sick and tired of dealing with juveniles, social services, smack heads and victims with more pre-cons than the defendants! Being an accredited detective I could always re-join civ pol later on if things didnt work out
Or you could deal with pissed up squaddies fighting, people claiming £20 too much on JPA and theft of articals from a clothing store.
 
#7
Or you could deal with pissed up squaddies fighting, people claiming £20 too much on JPA and theft of articals from a clothing store.
Yeah that sounds like more fun to me; I've done the interesting side of civvy policing and there's no way I'm going to spend the next 20 years working in London waiting to pick my pension up!!
 
#8
have you thought about the pay implacations? as Met civvy bill you'll be on far more than your basic LCPL pay ? 20 years left before police pension? that puts you at approx 30 years old, joining the OB at that age is fine, you fancy doing basic training for months with a bunch of 18 year olds?
 
#9
have you thought about the pay implacations? as Met civvy bill you'll be on far more than your basic LCPL pay ? 20 years left before police pension? that puts you at approx 30 years old, joining the OB at that age is fine, you fancy doing basic training for months with a bunch of 18 year olds?
Yeah the pay cut will be huge, but I've earned enough over the last few years for it not to be an issue for me luckily, and money certainly isn't everything....working in the Met has sapped all the life out of me and I've worked the counties too so it's not a decision I'm taking lightly. It's not just a job change it's a life change; I'd rather work with a bunch of 18 years olds on a daily basis than a bunch of 40/50 year olds (further away from my age group), and I really dont worry about people's age it's more about the approach to the work they do. I dont want to spend my entire working career policing the metropolis when I could do the same (or similar) work all over the place with, for me, the extra experience of going on operations.
The worst case scenario would be that I didn't enjoy it, came out the RMP after minimum service, and back into civvy police with more training and experience than before I started. Most RMP could perform in the role of a civvy constable, but not the other way around. The fitness, the formal side to the RMP, the army lifestyle and humour, and the chance to move around and do things I would never do otherwise is what appeals to me most.
 
#11
How about the TA?

You can volunteer for as many deployments as you like and be virtually full-time, as long as you show your face in the office now and then I suppose - and you could keep your civpol pension. :nod:

If you really hate your job that much you will also be pleased to find that there is 3 months leave at the end of each deployment with your civilian pay matched and paid for by the MoD (speaking from RNR, but I'm sure TA is similar if not the same).

Best all-round solution in my opinion.
 
#12
If anyone has recently made this transfer across, as I'm hoping to do, could you please PM me or leave a comment on what your experiences have been. Cheers
Why only consider the Military Police? Could you not do any job in the army and still have the option of a return to civ-pol?
 
#13
I have considered that route, but if I stay in civpol it would be in CID, as I've been a detective for most my service, and the units I work on I run 20+ cases which I couldnt leave alone for a week let alone months, or expect anyone to take over for me. Its not that I hate my job, it is without doubt one of the most interesting jobs one can do; but I've seen and done most things you can in civpol and I want to use what I have learned and experienced in my service in a different field of policing with different aims, goals and expectations
 
#14
If there no other police duties that you can look at to get your mojo back?

Armed response
Water units
Diplomatic protection
National units
Mounted sections
Ai support

Forgive me, I know nothing about policing other than what I see on sky TV!

Sounds like you enjoy being Columbo, if you go RMP I imagine (those in the know please correct me) that you will have to do Uniformed GPD and get some time in under your belt prior to any SIB aspirations.

MOD plod depoy on ops if you want some action in that respect and you could just go back into uniform as you were going to be in uniform as RMP anyway.

I hope you do find your mojo!
 
#15
If there no other police duties that you can look at to get your mojo back?

Armed response
Water units
Diplomatic protection
National units
Mounted sections
Ai support

Forgive me, I know nothing about policing other than what I see on sky TV!

Sounds like you enjoy being Columbo, if you go RMP I imagine (those in the know please correct me) that you will have to do Uniformed GPD and get some time in under your belt prior to any SIB aspirations.

MOD plod depoy on ops if you want some action in that respect and you could just go back into uniform as you were going to be in uniform as RMP anyway.

I hope you do find your mojo!
Thanks for the comment!!! I moved (or was "highjacked") into CID before I even finished my probation, so had very little uniformed policing; and having worked CID I wouldn't want to go into uniform within the same service; I also live 65 miles away from work and really dont want to move closer to London just to get a different role (house prices are hideous, and I dont really like London to be fair!) DPG, SB, Firearms etc are all very hard to get into and would mean living closer to the city; and it still doesnt solve one of my "wants" which is the ability to move around and be posted to different places throughout my service.
 
#16
If what you're after is variation then why don't you go the whole hog and sign up for a corps or regiment that doesn't involve policing and see how you like it, you can always transfer to the RMP if not (which should be a doddle given your history in civpol).

You may wish to give the Intelligence Corps a try if you like to exercise your analytical skills day in day out, or perhaps the Infantry if boots 'n' bullets feels like your thing, or how about the Army Air Corps? Ever thought about flying helicopters for a living? The skills of a professional pilot are incredibly mobile, with lots of varied and interesting work all over the globe in civvy street.
 
#17
Thanks for the comment!!! I moved (or was "highjacked") into CID before I even finished my probation, so had very little uniformed policing; and having worked CID I wouldn't want to go into uniform within the same service; I also live 65 miles away from work and really dont want to move closer to London just to get a different role (house prices are hideous, and I dont really like London to be fair!) DPG, SB, Firearms etc are all very hard to get into and would mean living closer to the city; and it still doesnt solve one of my "wants" which is the ability to move around and be posted to different places throughout my service.
Transfer to Northern Constabulary. You'll get posted to many different places throughout your service. Inversneckie, Shetland, Lewis, Barra, Benbecula, Orkney, you name it, they'll send you there. Big variety as a DC as well. Assaults, thefts, it's all happening up there....
 
#19
I'd think about jumping ship quite seriously.The chances of getting back into civpol if you didn't like it have been slashed dramatically in the last few months,recruiting is frozen and those working for the plod will have first dibs.If you go it may not be so easy to get back.

Have a look at transferring out of Metpol and try something else other than CID,my old force had loads of options besides those already listed.As suggested, join the TA RMP and see if you like it before you make the final jump.Good luck.
 
#20
The MET limits the number of their officers they will allow to be in the TA, there is quite a waiting list at the moment. If I was you (and a few years ago I was) I would look at a transfer to another force and specialising there ( be it Branch, Svl or something like that) and applying to 83 (V) SIB.

While I understand at the moment your shifts in CID are in your favour (more so with the 70 miles free rail travel on your brief). You might want to look into DPG (who have a retention nightmare at the moment) or maybe TVP, Essex, Surrey who would love to get a Met DC.... Plenty of specialist roles to be had in all 3 forces. Also, if you are able to wait for a few years the NCA (new version of SOCA) will be cash rich at the start and should have plenty of roles going.....
 
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