Civilian employment while on GRT & Termination Leave

#1
I have just been offered employment with my County Council,they want me to start Mid-April 10. But my termination leave starts 28th May 10. Can I start the job on my GRT leave and take a wage from them without affecting my pension (22 yrs). Emergency Tax etc???? My RAO said that I can only do work placement till my termination leave starts. Is he right???
 
#2
JAYC said:
I have just been offered employment with my County Council,they want me to start Mid-April 10. But my termination leave starts 28th May 10. Can I start the job on my GRT leave and take a wage from them without affecting my pension (22 yrs). Emergency Tax etc???? My RAO said that I can only do work placement till my termination leave starts. Is he right???
Do they pay you a month in lieu? ie, do they expect you to work for 1 month before your first wage comes in?

Edited. Just noticed it's your termination leave date and not your termination date.

Cancel my last.
 
#3
Your RAO is correct.

You can take up employment from the start of your termination leave - or earlier if you have annual leave to add on.

You can take up the job earlier than that by using your GRT for a Civ work attachment (no pay because you are on mil duty but you can claim for your T&S)
 
#4
Speak to your potential employer, ask if you can work for the period of your GRT for free but get a golden hello (which just happens to be the same amount youd have received if youd been employed by him for the period worked cash free) on the day you start for real on the first day of your terminanal leave.
 

oldbaldy

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#5
I started work 2 weeks before my terminal leave started.
Was open with my employer, didn't tell military as I was on my residual annual leave.
Employer taxed at BR (Basic rate). No problems at all.
 
#6
#7
I left and was working throughout my termination process. I never told the military and in any case you have to secure your future not thiers. Think selfish dont tell them. Many others will have done the same as me and not worried one iota.
 
#8
range-stew said:
I left and was working throughout my termination process. I never told the military and in any case you have to secure your future not thiers. Think selfish dont tell them. Many others will have done the same as me and not worried one iota.
Spot On Range Stew,

I did exactly the same as you.

You have done your time and now it is all about the future and it is double bubble!!!!!


Magic
 
#9
As an aside I was paid legit by my civ employers. I put it through the tax office and paid the right tax (albeit a little more than what I wanted to).

I knew my chain of command knew I was working and lied and bluffed. One days news gets consumed by the OC's intray.

I never heard anything from the Army, my employers or the tax office since.

You have to get the mindset of if they do find out so what! When you are out the calls stop and you are number one.
 

oldbaldy

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#10
range-stew said:
As an aside I was paid legit by my civ employers. I put it through the tax office and paid the right tax (albeit a little more than what I wanted to).

I knew my chain of command knew I was working and lied and bluffed. One days news gets consumed by the OC's intray.

I never heard anything from the Army, my employers or the tax office since.

You have to get the mindset of if they do find out so what! When you are out the calls stop and you are number one.
The only thing you HAVE to do is pay the correct tax. That's all the tax office are interested in. The fact that your still in the military is an irrelevance, it's just a second job to them.
 
#11
oldbaldy said:
range-stew said:
As an aside I was paid legit by my civ employers. I put it through the tax office and paid the right tax (albeit a little more than what I wanted to).

I knew my chain of command knew I was working and lied and bluffed. One days news gets consumed by the OC's intray.

I never heard anything from the Army, my employers or the tax office since.

You have to get the mindset of if they do find out so what! When you are out the calls stop and you are number one.
The only thing you HAVE to do is pay the correct tax. That's all the tax office are interested in. The fact that your still in the military is an irrelevance, it's just a second job to them.
Take it from the us, it is just second income. CivDiv dont care like the chain of command.
 
#13
I was lucky and got six months gardening leave, well 2 days to do the garden and I worked the rest, the money came in handy doing up the house prior to my termination grant and pension starting. BR tax no problems no questions asked.
 
#14
Your going to civvy street ...dont tell no ferker, thats the way it works out here , time to take care of No 1 now.
I worked for about 5 months before I was out and paid BR tax, when you get your paper work from the Army after you leave give it to the 17 year old pay dogs boddy in the council and they'll sort it out .....enjoy. :D
 
#15
I got out on redundancy in the early 90's. Although I was, on paper, in the army til 30 September I started my civvy job, with OC's knowledge, in the April. As others have said, when near the end of your time just ignore the army as completely as they'll ignore you the day you leave.
 
#16
Just crack on with your new job, once you have handed in your ID and are out of the door the military couldn't care less, and your new employer certainly won't. As has been said, keep a bit of money back so you can pay the taxman as there is a fair chance you will underpay for a bit. If you are due a pension, and you're going to be on the 40% tax bracket, let the SPVA know soonest and they can arrange for the pension to be taxed at 40% from the outset, or you will underpay tax on it. Also, it may be worth just checking that HMRC aren't going to class your pension as your primary income and your job as additional income (as has happened to 2 people I know) or your tax will be all over the place.
 
#17
PlasticCabDriver said:
Just crack on with your new job, once you have handed in your ID and are out of the door the military couldn't care less, and your new employer certainly won't. As has been said, keep a bit of money back so you can pay the taxman as there is a fair chance you will underpay for a bit. If you are due a pension, and you're going to be on the 40% tax bracket, let the SPVA know soonest and they can arrange for the pension to be taxed at 40% from the outset, or you will underpay tax on it. Also, it may be worth just checking that HMRC aren't going to class your pension as your primary income and your job as additional income (as has happened to 2 people I know) or your tax will be all over the place.
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That’s how mine and most people I know are you have your allowances on your pension and you employment is BR you will always have your pension but I changed jobs about 5 times in my first 2 years out so it saves messing about keep changing your tax code which is a pain.
 
#18
I went on leave 5 Dec 08, my discharge papers stated, 'Able to undertake paid Civil Employment from 31 Dec 08', my release date was the 2 Apr 09.
So it can be done.
 
#19
You are going be entering a new world and what support the military has given you in the last 22 yrs will not exist. You now have to look after #1 and screw what they tell. Start work right away as that offer may not be available later.
 
#20
I'm glad I found this thread as potentially I may be in the same boat :)

Edit to say. When would I get my p45 if my termination date was at the end of February.

Thanks all
 

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