Monday, the lunatics go back to the asylum. They will be debating ID cards and detention up to 90 days. Both likely to be opposed on grounds of civil liberties. ID cards not compulsary to get, carry or present on demand. The safeguards will be got around. Those who have stolen identities will get ID cards in those names. So - seems to be rubbish. However, 90 days + is a request from the police. To deny them would be like sending our PCs onto the street without radio, cuffs and baton. How can we demand they protect us from scum if we do not allow them the tools for the job? Anyone care to say what use ID cards might be and exactly what permanent harm might come to anyone detained for 90+ days on suspicion of being a baddy terrorist.