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  1. I am thinking of doing a cisco course for resettlement, does anyone know any good course providers.

    I am in between thoughts on what to do when i leave the job my interests are telecommunications and computers any advice from people that are in these areas of work would be greatly appreiciated.


    merry christmas :p :p
  2. Why not apply to join Cisco and let them train you up as one of their tech types or business advisors/sales guru's, as a tech you could be at CCIE level within a year or two, for free. Outside of that CCNA is a good start, especially if you don't know much more than basic networks or want qualification as a jack of all trades- if you're already a network god and want to specialise then look at their professional courses.

    If you want to work for somebody then I can recommend BT GlobalServices, plenty of money to be made in VoIP and ITS from my meagre experience, and the ranges of clients/projects can set you up well for self-employment but there's a lot more out there. This 'late' in your career you may be expected, or maybe easier to join as a specialist in a particular domain rather than 'telecomms and computers' and contract yourself out for 6months at a time - some good money in it too, if little security. Any security clearances you have can come in handy too.
  3. I did my CCNA for my resettlement a few years back. CHeck through with the resettlement people as they won't allow you to go to any T,D or H for the course. Try and find a provider who has instructors that have done it for real rather than theory teachers, you'll get better quality training!

    I did mine up in Sterling, can't remember the providers but I thought they were good at the time. Did 6 weeks - 3 weeks Network+ followed by the CCNA ('cos I'm not an IT geek!)
  4. I would certainly agree that if you want to get into (wide area) networking Cisco is the certification track to aim for and CCNA is the one to get. Although you can certainly get a job without it, if that is on your CV then it speaks for itself and would probably make sure you get into the 2nd look pile rather than file13. There are other certifications out there such as baynetworks, Juniper etc but Cisco is by far the biggest player and certainly a very large percentage of the kit out there is still supplied by them. As far as jobs go the industry in growing, datanetworks are not going away, convergence is the current buzzword and companies are now combining everything (data, voice, video) onto one platform and 9 times out of 10 that kit is still Cisco.
    Many companies are also pushing the management of the kit on site out to the telcos 24/7, so even more jobs for the telcos. If you look on the Cisco site you will see that CCNA is the building block for many other specialist tracks (VoIP, Security) and would certainly help in many others such as Design, WLAN etc.
    I would agree with TAS that BT is probably the largest player in the UK but there are many others out there (probably too many at the moment!), I work for one of the others and they run a very large percentage of the government networks - and it is growing all the time! As for training I would concur that if you are new to the industry make sure the training is hands on and not just classroom - CCNA can also be done in bitesize chunks, a basic networking cse followed by ICND - worth thinking about if you want to let it all sink in a bit. I personally would probably avoid the bootcamps unless you have some background in the industry - but thats my personnal opinion.
    Best of luck with it all!
  5. Hi,

    I can definately help here - CCNA is definately a door opener for the networking industry. I work for BT Global Services in the network field and can vouch for the previous post regarding the position of BT Global Services within Europe and also the rest of the world. They are a serious and very professional team and to work for them and with them is a complete joy. Over the last year I have worked on major networking projects in Russia, France, Belgium, Denmark and also the UK. Fabulous!!!! Plenty of scope for advancement and also plenty of training courses for self advancement.

    My background in the forces was as a Foreman of Signals in the Army. My resettlement was spent on doing the NT4 MCSE (in South Africa I might add, at Army expense!!) and a self study CCNA. When I left I had absolutely no problem in firstly getting interviews and secondly getting a good job with a very good salary. I contribute this to the ability to be able to quantify my skillset on my CV that in turn leads to being able to actually get an interview where you can sell yourself. As previously stated, the interview is not offered until your CV has been reviewed by your future peers. Experience is also important.

    The new CCNA2 exam is a lot more difficult than the CCNA1 exam - there are simulations that require some experience of actual networks and troubleshooting within them. I would recommend that you attend training courses with AZLAN to get the necessary knowledge and experience before attempting the exam. There is a choice of either the CCNA course or the CCNA Intro course AND the CCNA ICND course in preparation for the exam.

    I can recommend the new release of the Boson NetSim CCNP software to assist with honing your networking skills, and also to add a lot of experience to your technical skills. The new verion (final Beta) is being released this week and I recommend it. It is expensive at $250 but how much is your future worth?

    I hope this post will help you and if I can help any more please contact me.

    Good Luck!!

  6. Anyone have the name of good CCNA resettlement providers then? Im also interested in doing my CCNA for resettlement and need to find somewhere good pretty quickly becuase I do not have long left in.

    Ive been reading about a company called blue screen IT in Plymoth, any thoughts on them?
  7. One of the best providers in the south west is Comstor. No simulators all real live kit you are able to patch in your self. They are based in Cirencester and all the instructors are both instructors and consultants so they have shed loads of experience. Know several people who've done various courses they and all sing praises of the place.
  8. Shocking since leaving how much civvy IT training costs. Be carful with this one, ive seen some 5 day 'super fastrack' residential ones for upto 3k, seen crappy cd bundles for 300£.

    Computeach is highly reputable, and will give you a 4 day class and 6 months home study for about 1,5k

    Open uni actually do CCNA for 543£ uni prices. 6 months of study with a 5 day class included.

    Havent heard of comstor, but looking at it, for what you get it seems like one of the better deals ive seen.
  9. Another small bonus is that a CCNA qualifies you for membership of the IET which, if you want to go down that path, can lead to post-nominals such as IEng MIET.

    Stuff like this is a *good* thing for a potential employer as it shows continued development and leads to more doors opening.
  10. Did IT with a company called LearningIT in Stirling, nothing but high praise for them.

    They did want you to have a certain knowledge about IT, TCP/IP etc before starting the course.

    I did the A+/MCP and it was fine.
  11. Google 'Commsupport' in London, I have been with them and they are hands on and you work on real Cisco kit not simulators like some of the providers. The price is right and they are cleared by MOD for resettlement grants etc and no I don't work for them but have been on a course with them and it was good.
  12. I'm not suggesting it as an alternative but there are significant infrastructures using Juniper too, particularly if you're working with US companies. Might be worth getting at least a working knowledge after getting the foot-in-the-door quals.
  13. I used to work with Jo from commsupport (before he set it up) he's full on and a good teacher as I later went on one of his courses. As Mick said he spent a lot of time getting cleared for the resettlement grants.

    Just noticed the OP posted this in 2005 either he's qualified or stuck in the back of a BT van by now
  14. Yeah mate you are so right about Jo and his courses are cheap for the amount of real world stuff he teaches you I need to start reading when the posting was current, Juniper is a great combo for Cisco mate as you rightly said in fact they do some good deals with free online training if your Cisco certified from time to time.