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CIRA claims Dublin weigh-in murder

Criminal assets bureau in the south are pretty hot shit and don't bother about who's toes they tramp on.

Meanwhile back in the north a loyalist paramilitary commanders house was seized. Possibly due to the almost complete lack of paid income and gainful employment.

Somewhere in a place called Castle Mara.
The CAB works in the South because it was given wide-ranging powers to seize anything from anyone dodgy; ordinary crims and paramilitaries alike and it involved the Gardai / Revenue /Customs from day 1 and it also blew away a few uncooperative empires with those organisations, as it was made clear to one and all that the gloves were off, when it came to dealing with organised crime and various flavours of the IRA, including certain of those that the Irish State wouldn't dare touch, for fear of offending Sinn Fein. The downside is that white-collar crime is still given an easy ride in the South and token prison sentences are still common on that side of the equation.
 
Not forgetting that in the last 3 years (and a few weeks) this feud has:
- cost 16 lives (2 of them being cases of mistaken identify)
- Gardai have directly intervened in 59 potential hits
- Gardai have seized €147 million of drugs
- Gardai have seized 91 firearms (including g an Ak) and 4,000 rounds of ammunition
- Gardai have seized €8.3 million in cash
- over 11 people have been convicted of offences related to the feud (some for life)

16 dead in Hutch-Kinahan feud as gardai continue to target gangs

The Kinahan Cardel is one of the biggest drug importers into Europe and deals across Europe.

I Watched a TV documentary on this issue last night and noted that High Risk Prisoners were escorted By the Guards when did the Army give up this role or do they still do it?
 
The CAB works in the South because it was given wide-ranging powers to seize anything from anyone dodgy; ordinary crims and paramilitaries alike and it involved the Gardai / Revenue /Customs from day 1 and it also blew away a few uncooperative empires with those organisations, as it was made clear to one and all that the gloves were off, when it came to dealing with organised crime and various flavours of the IRA, including certain of those that the Irish State wouldn't dare touch, for fear of offending Sinn Fein. The downside is that white-collar crime is still given an easy ride in the South and token prison sentences are still common on that side of the equation.
Importantly it also protected the identity of Social Welfare and Tax Inspectors attached to it who do the investigations, can the demands etc come in either signed simply CAB or by the Chief Bureau Officer. And it is illegal to identify them.

The beauty of the CAB setup is that although they are investigating criminal activity they use the civil process.

Therefore it burden of proof lies with the Criminal to proof that they got the cash, cars, expensive watch, horses, house, stables etc etc from legitimate means.... if they can’t it considered to be the proceeds of crime.
 
I have read about a criminal assets bureau but how is recovered cash managed ?
The assets are seized and sold

They can increase your tax and take it weekly/monthly, they can take it out of your social welfare.

The only real rule is (judicial precedent) is that if they seize your house your future Accomodiation has to be provided for (not sure 100% of the wording but basically they can’t leave you on the street). So basically CAB will sell you 10 bed mansion and you’ll be housed in a 2 bed terraced house.



Extravagant luxury lifestyle of Kinahan cartel thug Liam Byrne revealed

What CAB Found In This Unemployed Couple's Dublin Home Is Shocking
 
There is 4 parts on this guys channel..... profiling CAB’s first target Gerry “the Monk” Hutch ..... as in this feud

 
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You’ll notice the only non-Garda identified is the Chief Legal Officer (as required by law)


8 year old video but it gives you the idea
 
I Watched a TV documentary on this issue last night and noted that High Risk Prisoners were escorted By the Guards when did the Army give up this role or do they still do it?

Prisoner escorts are the responsibility of the GS. Depending on the risk, they can request an Army escort. For instance if armed GS are unavailable. In theory armed GS and Army are never on escorts together although it has happened.
 
You’ll notice the only non-Garda identified is the Chief Legal Officer (as required by law)


8 year old video but it gives you the idea

HTF do you not get a hue and cry over human rights and all that mullarkey when seizing criminal assets ?
 
Tested multiple times in the Irish Supreme Court (not sure about ECJ/ECHR but I think so)

See post 205

Well, that can only be to the good. send us some of your legal eagles, we're in dire need of them !
 
HTF do you not get a hue and cry over human rights and all that mullarkey when seizing criminal assets ?

Property obtained by criminality is not protected by the Constitution. Income is rarely declared for income tax and so on. Seizing criminal assets is the same as returning stolen property to its legal owner or garnishing a tax-defaulter's salary. Governments everywhere do it all the time. The Criminal Assets Bureau can seize the assets of non-criminals too.
 
Property obtained by criminality is not protected by the Constitution. Income is rarely declared for income tax and so on. Seizing criminal assets is the same as returning stolen property to its legal owner or garnishing a tax-defaulter's salary. Governments everywhere do it all the time. The Criminal Assets Bureau can seize the assets of non-criminals too.
Plus it’s the civil process
 
They were friends of each other and a 3rd man who was shot dead in January.

At least 1 normally wore body armour

Journalists were threatened at both murder scenes

The murders aren’t believed to have been co-ordinated
 

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