CIB Query

#1
Morning Colonists

To be awarded the CIB, do you have to simply bear arms in a combat area, or actually come under fire ?

I gather its 11B only ( HOOAH! )

TIA

BB
 
#3
I know from my last tour that was in a US Army 3 star HQ with a small brit element that to qualify for the Combat Action Badge (non inf personel) that we actually had to come under fire direct small arms or IDF, there was no requirement to make it a two way range that confused the hell out of me I always thought combat involved 2 teams.
There were if I remember correctly 2 ways to earn the CIB if they were inf MOS in a non inf unit it was as for the CAB, if they were inf MOS in an inf unit they had to serve 30 days in a combat zone (all this could be not to US regulations but its how I remember it being explained to me). they had a parade and a US 3 star presented the badges and each bloke got the reason why they were awarded read out some people for specific dates and some for time periods very confusing
 
#4
Straight out of AR 600-8-22 Military Awards

8–6. Combat Infantryman Badge
a. For award of the CIB a Soldier must meet the following three requirements:
(1) Be an infantryman satisfactorily performing infantry duties.
(2) Assigned to an infantry unit during such time as the unit is engaged in active ground combat.
(3) Actively participate in such ground combat. Campaign or battle credit alone is not sufficient for award of the
CIB.
b. The specific eligibility criteria for the CIB require that
(1) A Soldier must be an Army infantry or special forces officer (SSI 11 or 18) in the grade of colonel or below, or
an Army enlisted Soldier or warrant officer with an infantry or Special Forces MOS, who subsequent to 6 December
1941 has satisfactorily performed duty while assigned or attached as a member of an infantry, ranger or special forces
unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller size during any period such unit was engaged in active ground combat.
Eligibility for Special Forces personnel in Military Occupational Specialties (MOS) 18B, 18E, 18F, and 18Z (less
Special Forces medical sergeant) accrues from 20 December 1989. Retroactive awards of the CIB to Special Forces
personnel are not authorized prior to 20 December 1989.
(2) A recipient must be personally present and under hostile fire while serving in an assigned infantry or Special
Forces primary duty, in a unit actively engaged in ground combat with the enemy. The unit in question can be of any
size smaller than brigade. For example, personnel possessing an infantry MOS in a rifle squad of a cavalry platoon in a

cavalry troop would be eligible for award of the CIB. Battle or campaign participation credit alone is not sufficient; the
unit must have been in active ground combat with the enemy during the period.
(3) Personnel with other than an infantry or Special Forces MOS are not eligible, regardless of the circumstances.
The infantry or Special Forces SSI or MOS does not necessarily have to be the Soldier’s primary specialty, as long as
the Soldier has been properly trained in infantry or Special Forces tactics, possesses the appropriate skill code, and is
serving in that specialty when engaged in active ground combat as described above. Commanders are not authorized to
make any exceptions to this policy.
(4) Awards will not be made to general officers or to members of headquarters companies of units larger in size
than brigade.
(5) On or after 18 September 2001—
(a) A Soldier must be an Army infantry or special forces (SSI 11 or 18) in the grade of colonel or below, or an
Army enlisted Soldier or warrant officer with an infantry or special forces MOS, who has satisfactorily performed duty
while assigned or attached as a member of an infantry, ranger or special forces unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller
size during any period such unit was engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct
fires.
(b) A Soldier must be personally present and under fire while serving in an assigned infantry or Special Forces
primary duty, in a unit engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires.
(c) Soldiers possessing MOS of 18D (Special Force Medical Sergeant) who satisfactorily perform special forces
duties while assigned or attached to a special forces unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller size during any period such
unit was engaged in active ground combat may be awarded the CIB. These Soldiers must have been personally present
and engaged in active ground combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires. Retroactive awards under
these criteria are not authorized for service prior to 18 September 2001.
(d) Those Soldiers possessing MOS of 18D who qualify for award of the CMB from 18 September 2001 to 3 June
2005 will remain qualified for the badge. Upon request any such Soldier may be awarded the CIB instead of the CMB.
I n s u c h i n s t a n c e s , t h e S o l d i e r m u s t s u b m i t a r e q u e s t t h r o u g h t h e c h a i n o f c o m m a n d t o U S A H R C , A T T N :
AHRC–PDO–PA, 200 Stovall Street, Alexandria, VA 22332–0471 for conversion of the CMB to the CIB.
(e) Service members from the other U.S. Armed Forces and foreign military (infantry and Special Forces equivalents)
assigned or attached as a member of a U.S. Army infantry or Special Forces unit of brigade, regimental, or
smaller size may be considered for award of the CIB. All basic requirements as listed above must be met. Retroactive
awards under these criteria are not authorized for service prior to 18 September 2001.
c. The CIB is authorized for award for the following qualifying wars, conflicts, and operations:
(1) World War II (7 December 1941 to 3 September 1945).
(2) The Korean War (27 June 1950 to 27 July 1953).
(3) Republic of Vietnam Conflict (2 March 1961 to 28 March 1973), combined with qualifying service in Laos (19
April 1961 to 6 October 1962).
(4) Dominican Republic (28 April 1965 to 1 September 1966).
(5) Korea on the DMZ (4 January 1969 to 31 March 1994).
(6) El Salvador (1 January 1981 to 1 February 1992).
(7) Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983).
(8) Joint Security Area, Panmunjom, Korea (23 November 1984).
(9) Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990).
(10) Southwest Asia Conflict (17 January to 11 April 1991).
(11) Somalia (5 June 1992 to 31 March 1994).
(12) Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom, 5 December 2001 to a date to be determined).
(13) Iraq (Operation Iraqi Freedom, 19 March 2003 to a date to be determined).
d. The special provision authorized for the War on Terrorism is listed in this paragraph. The CIB may be awarded to
recognize those U.S. Army Infantry and Special Forces Soldiers embedded in formed Afghan National Army or Iraqi
infantry/special force units, or Iraqi specialized Infantry type units, of brigade, regimental or smaller size, or assigned
as advisors to a foreign infantry/special forces comparable to the above infantry units, as tactical advisors, trainers or
performing liaison duties, during the time that the supported infantry/special force unit engages in active ground
combat, to close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires. Qualified Soldiers must have been personally present
and participated in the combat operations.


The intended requirement to be "personally present and under fire" has not changed.
 
#6
Thanks dudes.

The blokes I did my exchange with last year, A Coy 1/181 Inf had plenty of CIBs in evidence. I did like the FOB CIB stickers in their rear windows, too.

Could an attached Limey get a CIB? I know that its possible for us to receive, for example, the Army Efficiency Medal...
 
#7
Thanks dudes.

The blokes I did my exchange with last year, A Coy 1/181 Inf had plenty of CIBs in evidence. I did like the FOB CIB stickers in their rear windows, too.

Could an attached Limey get a CIB? I know that its possible for us to receive, for example, the Army Efficiency Medal...
for my tour I recived a US Army Acheivment Medal (with nice embosed citation(that was a great work of fiction)) Presented by the Lt Gen himself an Iraq campaign medal and a combat action badge now these last two were gizits as they techniqley(how the hell do you spell that word) shouldn't be awarded to forigen service personnel but the cheif clark who was US Airfarce decided as i worked there and everyone else who had been shot at mortared and nearly blown up by IED's i could have them too however there is no supporting bit of paper with them unlike the Acheivment medal so they go in the nice gizzit random army stuff draw along with my formation patch that we had to move arms after 30 days in "combat"
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Dont suppose you have all that for the Combat Action Badge aswell do you Goldbricker
cheers
From HQDA LTR 600-05-1:

c. Combat Action Badge. On 2 May 2005, the Chief of Staff, Army approved the creation of the CAB to provide special recognition to Soldiers who personally engage, or are engaged by the enemy.
(1) Intent. The requirements for award of the CAB are Branch and MOS immaterial. Assignment to a Combat Arms unit or a unit organized to conduct close or offensive combat operations, or performing offensive combat operations is not required to qualify for the CAB. However, it is not intended to award all Soldiers who serve in a combat zone or imminent danger area.
(2) Specific eligibility requirements.

  • (a) May be awarded to any Soldier.
    (b) Soldier must be performing assigned duties in an area where hostile fire pay or imminent danger pay is authorized.
    (c) Soldier must be personally present and actively engaging or beingengaged by the enemy, and performing satisfactorily in accordance with the prescribed rules of engagement.
    (d) Soldier must not be assigned/attached to a unit that would qualify the Soldier for the CIB/CMB. (For example, an 11B assigned to Corps staff is eligible for award of the CAB. However, an 11B assigned to an infantry battalion is not eligible for award of the CAB.)
(3) Other Services and foreign soldiers. May be awarded to members from the other U.S. Armed Forces and foreign soldiers assigned to a U.S. Army unit, provided they meet the above criteria (that is, KATUSAs in 2d ID).
(4) Qualifying periods. Award of the CAB is authorized from 18 September 2001 to a date to be determined. Award for qualifying service in any previous conflict is not authorized.
(5) Subsequent awards.

  • (a) Only one CAB may be awarded during a qualifying period.
    (b) Second and third awards of the CAB for subsequent qualifying periods will be indicated by superimposing one and two stars respectively, centered at the top of the badge between the points of the oak wreath.
(6) Retroactive awards. Retroactive awards for the CAB are not authorized prior to 18 September 2001. For service on or after 18 September 2001, applications (to include supporting documentation) for retroactive awards of the CAB will be forwarded through the
first two star general in the chain of command to CG, USA HRC, ATTN: AHRC-PDO-PA, Alexandria, VA 22332-0471.
(7) Wear policy (see AR 670-1). The CAB is categorized as a Group 1 badge.
d . Multiple awards. Soldiers may be awarded the CIB, CMB and CAB for the same qualifying period, provided the criteria for each badge is met. However, subsequent awards of the same badge within the same qualifying period are not authorized.
e . Who may award. The CIB, CMB, and CAB may be awarded by any commander delegated authority by the Secretary of the Army during wartime or the CG , USAHRC.
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#9
Thanks dudes.

The blokes I did my exchange with last year, A Coy 1/181 Inf had plenty of CIBs in evidence. I did like the FOB CIB stickers in their rear windows, too.

Could an attached Limey get a CIB? I know that its possible for us to receive, for example, the Army Efficiency Medal...
Theoretically, though I doubt you'd be allowed to wear it (my bold):

(e) Service members from the other U.S. Armed Forces and foreign military (Infantry and Special Forces equivalents) assigned or attached as a member of a U.S. Army Infantry or Special Forces unit of brigade, regimental, or smaller size may be considered for award of the CIB. All basic requirements as listed above must be met. Retroactive awards under these criteria are not authorized for service prior to 18 September 2001.
 
#10
Thanks dudes.

The blokes I did my exchange with last year, A Coy 1/181 Inf had plenty of CIBs in evidence. I did like the FOB CIB stickers in their rear windows, too.

Could an attached Limey get a CIB? I know that its possible for us to receive, for example, the Army Efficiency Medal...
What's the Army Efficiency Medal? :? The US Army doesn't have a medal by that name. (I ought to know as if they did, I wouild have gotten one. ;-) ;-P )
 
#11
IIRC their is some images of both an Latvian Infantry Company awarded the CIB and I know I've seen images of French Soldiers from the Battalion Coree wearing CIB's back in the 50's


French Marines (3eme RIMa)?
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
Could an attached Limey get a CIB? I know that its possible for us to receive, for example, the Army Efficiency Medal...
Resurrecting this thread because the obituary for CSgt Stephen (Baz) Alan Bardsley popped up on my Facebook feed. Note the Bronze Star Medal at the end of the rack and the CIB above, which he received from his time as a exchange Pl Sgt with 2/505 PIR, 82 Abn Div during the 1991 Gulf War. He got his MM for his actions at Goose Green. Bit of an all round legend and an example (albeit a rare one) of a Limey with a CIB.


 
#14
There are some annoyances with the CIB rule. My mortarmen were a bit irked that they weren't eligible to receive it despite being 11-series infantrymen, as they were assigned to my cavalry unit. Whereas the mortarmen in the sister infantry battalion did.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
Shouldn't he be wwearing that on his other lapel?
Thought all foreign awards (when authorised)were worn on the right hand side of the uniform..
Not doubting the chap or anything I'm sure I saw guys with US jump wings etc worn on the right hand side.
 
#16
There are some annoyances with the CIB rule. My mortarmen were a bit irked that they weren't eligible to receive it despite being 11-series infantrymen, as they were assigned to my cavalry unit. Whereas the mortarmen in the sister infantry battalion did.
Odd our Cav scout plt all got the CIB not the CAB
 
#17
Resurrecting this thread because the obituary for CSgt Stephen (Baz) Alan Bardsley popped up on my Facebook feed. Note the Bronze Star Medal at the end of the rack and the CIB above, which he received from his time as a exchange Pl Sgt with 2/505 PIR, 82 Abn Div during the 1991 Gulf War. He got his MM for his actions at Goose Green. Bit of an all round legend and an example (albeit a rare one) of a Limey with a CIB.


And the BEM too. RIP.
 

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