Church Army intends to pull out of Germany

#1
We've been told that the Church Army intends to leave Germany at the end of 2006 :!: :cry: 8O

Don't know about the rest of Germany but in Sennelager this will be a disaster. Hey you Guys and Gals, if you've ever been in Sennelager on the Ranges or on a course, this will affect you next time you visit.

I know we also support the NAAFI but hey a little bit of competition can't be that bad, can it? :wink:

PLEASE SUPPORT THE LOVELY LADIES WITH THE NICE VAN AT THE CHURCH ARMY IN SENNELAGER.........NOW ! :D

THE ONES IN THE CAFE AND SHOP ARE LOVELY AS WELL :lol:

If you are currently posted in Sennelager/Paderborn or if you intend to visit Sennelager Ranges in the next few months, please pop into the Church Army in Normandy Barracks and give you name and signature to their petition.

If anyone from the Church Army World reads this, PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION :!: :x

THANK YOU :)
 
#2
I believe its more that they are being pushed out, in that NAAFI do not want competition once PAYD is introduced. Because they wouldn't make any money cause every man and his dog would go to other sources to eat instead of eating the slop that NAAFI dish up!


If this is incorrect then I apologise.

Sluice
 
#3
Does this mean that they've successfully converted all of us - or given up?
 
#5
Over the years, I always opted for the Church Army, YMCA and others over NAAFI. The staff are always friendly, beans on toast are superb and the brews are great. The staff in Sennelager are great and I believe the mags and papers are cheaper than NAAFI.
 
#6
I'm fairly sure that they're self-funding. The draw-down must have a major implication on their finances.
 
#7
I think they are charity run, don't really know too much about their set up. But I think it will be a real shame to lose the cafe and shop especially if it really has something to do with the intro of PAYD.
 
#8
I think it's something to do with hte cafe's being their main source of income and if NAAFI are enforcing rules and regulations re the selling of food then they will not make enough money so have to close. But again I might be wrong - but i'm sure I read something about it somewhere on here

Sluice
 
#9
Range_Gopher said:
I think they are charity run, don't really know too much about their set up. But I think it will be a real shame to lose the cafe and shop especially if it really has something to do with the intro of PAYD.
I agree mate, it would be scandalous to see them go. But if it costs a fortune to keep them going (I'm not sure if that's true though), when money could be spent else where, then the argument to keep them becomes more difficult.
 
#10
Anything that takes away such institutions is to be regretted and you in-now guys should do all you can to protect them. Way way back they - and the kirk o'jocks - gave excellent service, support and downright love.
 
#11
If anyone out there who is able to sign the petition would do so, I know the ladies who work there are keen to stay and enjoy the work they do. I know we can't put names in here, but the lady who runs it and her husband have put a lot of work into the running of the place over the years and I know that they and the other ladies who currently work there would appreciate your show of support.

Where there's a will, there's a way :D

Even in the bigger picture of things....... :)
 
#12
In Fally NAAFI have the run of the whole camp, the YWCA, 'Chicken Goerge' have all been brushed aside, in fact I get the impression soon they will try and stop us eating down town, at Burgerking and Mcdonalds etc. I even wouldn't be surprised in the not to distance future to see a NAAFI van going around the estates selling grub, s**t better not give them any ideas! In the main NAAFI you can buy a Timberland shirt, shoes etc at some extortianate price but every weekend they run out of bread and milk!
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#13
Sluice_dweller said:
I believe its more that they are being pushed out, in that NAAFI do not want competition once PAYD is introduced. Because they wouldn't make any money cause every man and his dog would go to other sources to eat instead of eating the slop that NAAFI dish up!


If this is incorrect then I apologise.

Sluice
It is due to PAYD. I was on a course up in Herford last year and it was being spoken about then.

It's a shame that this is happening, but bigger business has dictated the terms and the friendly little guy has got his marching orders. Such a pity that the Army management hasn't fought thier case a bit harder, given the support that little organisations like the Church Army have given us for decades. The canteen in Herford serves better scoff than NAAFI and its cheaper. It will be a loss when it goes.

Another soldier friendly agency consigned to the history books. It's not as if they would dent NAAFIs profits. I hope that they andwhat's left of the other small timers can find locations outside the wire and keep trading.

If anyone is visiting any of these establishments can you add Biscuits_AB to the petition.
 
#14
Do the wallies at the top ever bother to ask the guys on the ground what THEY want.I'm sure 99,99% of the troops would prefer the Church Army to the boring profit making NAAFI.Keep the Church Army I say.
 
#15
NAAFI will argue the toss every time and say 'but look how much money we push back into the system', they would far better off keeping their prices down so more of us would be inclined to use their establishments. They've got the monopoly and to me thats unhealthy, they will never be as big or as good as the American AAFES system, which is what they are trying to emulate.
 
#16
PAYD giving soldiers the choice to eat in the cookhouse or not, but in reality totally removing choice especially if, like me, you are based somewhere like Hohne, with only the Grill Stop across the road to eat in.
We are not PAYD in Hohne yet but it is only around the corner and we are not looking forward to losing the squadron cafe etc.

Sad times
 
#17
I have a Cunning Plan to become a Multi Millionaire!!!!
When the Sally Army have Marched off for Blighty singing "Pack up your Troubles in your old kit bag" I will search for and find "Wolfgangs Bratty Waggon" of Soltau fame and recommision it into Service. I will then activate the inbuilt "Troop detection Radar" and fire up the Radio Rigs and the Pans and Sally forth dispensing Bratties, Gyros, Fish & chips and lots of other goodies to Hungry troops at exorbitant Prices! I will then change my name to Wolfgang so that I can use the Slogan "Pay as you eat with Wolfgang". Doubtless there will be many surprised faces when former customers who are still serving remark that I have not aged after all these years!
Now remember chaps - It`s still a secret so don`t go telling the world. If you come across Wolfgangs Bratty Waggon in the future, just Roll up your right Trouser leg and I will know you as a member of ARRSE and you will receive a Discount!.

Right - Where that damned Telephone book - I need to Talk to some Scrapyards........

LIMA (Soon to be Wolfgang)
 

oldbaldy

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#18
batfink said:
PAYD giving soldiers the choice to eat in the cookhouse or not, but in reality totally removing choice especially if, like me, you are based somewhere like Hohne, with only the Grill Stop across the road to eat in.
We are not PAYD in Hohne yet but it is only around the corner and we are not looking forward to losing the squadron cafe etc.

Sad times
Surely someone will set up just outside the gate. Capitalism started that way!
Anyone in Hohne getting out soon & fancy a new venture?
 
#19
With regards to the Sennelager van with the lovely ladies on board. I see a new venture on the horizon. If the Church Army contract does end. (I hope it doesn't, Undercrackers is well and truly on said petition by the way). Anyone with a little time and money on their hands make an offer for that van, needs a little attention it has to be said. (Poor girls froze through the winter with no heating on board). Set your self up out side the various camp gates at certain times and the jobs a good un. Just watch the money roll in.

One place BFG does benefit from their services though is in Poland. Hundreds will back me on this one. NAAFI rip us off big time there. They are a great life line. Not just the food but the TV, DVD's and books etc.

Final word on the matter.

Save the Church Army.
 
#20
As well as NAAFI's well worn argument that they put money back into the system, there's also the 'PAYD is what people asked for' routine. However, I seem to remember that what people really wanted was to not pay for meals they don't eat - no-one I know ever asked for the removal of choice of supplier, or the removal of valuable welfare assets.

As for NAAFI's return of profit, I wonder whether customers would simply prefer lower prices and better service?

If NAAFI really are seeking to emulate AAFES, they need to learn the difference between a real on-base Burger King and obese, tattooed, sweaty women in NAAFI XL t-shirts, Ron Hills and dirty trainers slopping Tesco Value burgers into stale buns.
 

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