Christian Owners of guesthouse fined for refusing gay couple to share bed.

#1
From Sky News, couldnt post link for some reason:

The Christian owners of a seaside guesthouse acted unlawfully in a landmark case, for refusing to allow a gay couple to share a double bed, a judge has ruled.
Peter and Hazelmary Bull did not allow civil partners Martyn Hall and Steven Preddy to use a double room in their Cornwall B&B because it would be "an affront to their faith".
However, a judge at Bristol County Court said the couple were breaking the law by denying the men a room.

Mr Hall and Mr Preddy were each awarded £1,800 in damages.

Mr Preddy booked a room at the B&B in 2008 and Mrs Bull assumed he was bringing his wife with him.
When he arrived with his civil partner Mr Hall, the pair were refused a double room by the manager Bernie Quinn, who instead offered them seperate single rooms.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull have strict religious beliefs.
The Preddys used the 2007 Equality Act Regulations to bring the case to court, claiming £5,000 in damages.

A month before Mr Preddy booked to stay at the B&B, Stonewall, the gay rights organisation, had warned the Bulls that a notice on their website about who could and could not stay was illegal.
The notice read: "We have few rules but please note that out of a deep regard for marriage we prefer to let double accommodation to heterosexual married couples only.

Mrs Bull has argued that even her brother and his female partner were not allowed to share a room in her house due to her strict religious beliefs.
Their legal fees were paid for by the Equality and Human Rights Commission, while Mr and Mrs Bull's defence is funded by The Christian Institute.

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Without commenting on whether these people were right or wrong where does that leave pubs and clubs? I mean; they can refuse entry,eject after admission and bar for life anyone they like without ever having to disclose why.
 

Alsacien

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#3
What "damage" did they suffer that was valued at 1800 quid each?
They were offered 2 single rooms so there was not even any inconvenience.
 
#7
It was a extreme act by those guys to stop these two persons to share a room. It has nothing to do with religion. It was their right to stay in one room.The guys were just assuming that its against religious beliefs.
 
#8
I suppose the clue is in the term 'Guest-house'... a resident should be seen as a guest by invitation & the owners should have the same rights as a licensee of a public house and have the legal right to refuse service without even having to give a reason.
 
#9
It was a extreme act by those guys to stop these two persons to share a room. It has nothing to do with religion. It was their right to stay in one room.The guys were just assuming that its against religious beliefs.
******* hell, do people now have a "right" to share rooms in a private businesses accommodation?
 
#11
When this came up before I put up a link (not this time cos Im on a military computer) to a gay only hotel in the UK, (Because its alright for gays to discriminate)
 
#13
you both feel discriminated against do you?
i'm pretty sure you can get a room at a ghey hotel if you want to boys.
 
#14
a google brings up loads of them which begs the question, 'how can gays discriminate on sexuality ?' I thought that was illegal ?
Dont be silly, minorities can do what they like in this country and anyone saying otherwise is a sexist, homophobic, racist Nazi.

Personally I cant see the problem with gay/straight only private businesses, don't give the ******* your custom if you don't like it.
 
#15
you both feel discriminated against do you?
i'm pretty sure you can get a room at a ghey hotel if you want to boys.
Hey its proper_gander the billy bullshiter (He make up racist quotes from German bankers then throws a sulk when asked to prove it)

Im pretty sure the queers could have got 2 single rooms, but slept in one if they really wanted to, but far better to be outraged and sue someone. But then they are a minority and you would be all for them being cnuts wouldnt you proper_gander?
 
#16
Im pretty sure the queers could have got 2 single rooms, but slept in one if they really wanted to, but far better to be outraged and sue someone. But then they are a minority and you would be all for them being cnuts wouldnt you proper_gander?
The Bulls state that they would have allowed them a twin room, which they have, if there was one free, which there wasn't.
 
#17
When I book into a hotel I bang her like there is no feckin tomorrow. Whether married or not. These 2 have just identified themselves as a couple who wish to spy on there guests having hot sex, but it goes against the grain if this is going to include males only. I wonder what they would do if it were 2 females?
 

Alsacien

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#19
Hey its proper_gander the billy bullshiter (He make up racist quotes from German bankers then throws a sulk when asked to prove it)

Im pretty sure the queers could have got 2 single rooms, but slept in one if they really wanted to, but far better to be outraged and sue someone. But then they are a minority and you would be all for them being cnuts wouldnt you proper_gander?
Indeed they were offered 2 single rooms and a bit of discretion could probably have saved everyone a lot of time and hassle. I find the award of 3600 quid in damages strange as I cannot see what damage was sustained...
It is being reported today however, that this was something of a put up job and the guest house was targeted because of the owners views (as published on their website).
The Judge also appears to be a bit off target - he stated that their status was legally the same as that of a married couple, which I understand from the news is also not true.
 
#20
What I don't like about this story is that they might have been set up. Stonewall had been in contact with them to complain and then these guys turn up, next thing you know they are in court. I remember going down to penzance to look at a car at short notice and looking for bed and breakfast for the night. Those run by christians were easily identifiable because they had the fish symbol on the door. Frankly I couldn't be bothered with all the holier than thou attitude you seem to get at these places and found a room above a pub, much more my cup of tea and it was a good pint. I completely agree with non-discriminatory legislation because otherwise, some idiots and bigots would have a field day but if you are a gay couple, why book into a B&B knowing it's run by christians who you know from their website, are not going to be happy with you staying there. It can only make for a happier and more welcome stay if you find somewhere where they don't particularly care what you are or do.
 

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