Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Fang_Farrier, Jan 28, 2011.

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  1. Fang_Farrier

    Fang_Farrier LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Being of a certain age, and a slightly high BMI (Just and I mean just over 30, not even 31!) a blood test recently showed a slight elevated cholesterol.
    Apparently I am a high risk because my father died at 62 of a heart attack, though he'd been a smoker for many years which I'm not.

    The GP is threatening to write a prescription for statins unless my cholesterol comes down a bit in next three months. I say write as I'm unlikely to actually take them.

    Anyway, main point of query, do any of these magic cholesterol busting yoghurts and spreads actually work or am I going to have to lay off the pies?
  2. Perhaps not?

    The Great Cholesterol Con
  3. i find myself in the same boat,however its the practice nurse not the doctor whining about it,to be honest another doc told me that most of it is in your genes any way and only so much can be changed,i belive you can get the same thing but in a pill from health shops,maybe cheaper and not fill landfill with 100s of plastic pots.
  4. interesting debate i have just gone through the loop this last week, but i am working aboard and not subject to the good old NHS, anyway to keep a short story short, the advice from the MO after a very impressive set of diagnostics tests, was exercise try to keep your weight down (i am a fat Bastar*) and cut out the salt?, see you in two mouths, not a pill proscribed.. very happy with her work.

    lest hope i make it for the next appointment
  5. udipur

    udipur LE Book Reviewer

    Afraid there is no proven link between cholesterol and heart disease. Read Afrika Corpse' suggestion above - it certainly saved me a lot of concern.

    I am nowhere near your certain age and bumbled into the docs with some other issue. Knowing they get a bung for testing you, I thought I would help the local community and offer my arm. Cue results and the doctor telling me that the tests had shown I have high cholesterol. When asked for clarification, she replied, "It means your cholesterol is high." I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I worked out I would have to do my research elsewhere.

    Tinterweb got productive, the Cholesterol Con was read. I went back for further tests in three months and a marginal reduction in numbers. Off to the dietician. Never heard such party line tripe in my life and refused to address, let alone answer my queries about the diagnosis.

    So I ignore it, stay healthy and wouldn't for the life of me take any statins as they interrupt a key bodily function, have some really unpleasant side effects and put billions of dollars in the pharmaceutical companies' back pockets.

    Bon chance and enjoy life - it's just not worth the worry.
  6. Eat porridge
  7. Fang_Farrier

    Fang_Farrier LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Mass medication with as yet little outcome to the overall statistics, chances of side effects, cost to NHS as a whole and to me for my prescriptions!
  8. Cholesterol is a waxy steroid metabolites present in cell membranes and transported in blood plasma of all animals. It is important for the structure of mammalian cell membranes, where it is necessary to establish the proper cell membrane permeability and fluidity. In addition, cholesterol is an important part of the production of bile acids, steroid hormones and vitamin D. Cholesterol is the major sterol synthesized by animals, but small amounts collected in other eukaryotes such as plants and fungi.
  9. Fang_Farrier

    Fang_Farrier LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Thank you for the biochemistry cut and paste, but doesn't really answer the question.
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  10. Short answer:

    Avoid trans fats (give it a google, believe it not butter is better than flora!).
    Fats are essential in any diet, just avoid saturated fats! Regular exercise and you should be fine!
  11. That is a good tip and also regular eating of eats reduces massively the risk of bowel cancer.
    As regards cholesterol was the blood test a fasting one if not it should be repeated fasting. You should be able to get a low fat diet sheet on Try it for three months and if no significant reduction go on the statins.
    Oh porridge/oats were proven years ago to reduce atheroma building up inside arteries.
  12. Butter is a saturated fat but you are right, it is better for you than cooking with margarine. Avoid (like the plague) processed fats and stick with 'pure' fats like virgin olive oil, coconut oil and butter. The less interference from man the better the fat is for you. Try also to only eat grass reared meat and free range poultry. Oily fish is good for you. Funnily enough grapefruit has proven cholesterol reducing properties but is contra-indicated with statins because it stops them working!
  13. Then it does come down to quantities I eat butter but in small amounts. I use double cream when making sauces but not every week. I use oven chips but have deep fried chips a couple of times a month.
  14. Advice from the site posted by Afrika-Corpse is something to avoid, by a very wide margin. Cholesterol, according to all the cardiac specialists who've grasped me by the throat and shouted at me over the past decade or so, is critical to the issue. However, there's been a lot of progress in the science, and the essential way to avoid having an experience like the very nasty one which I had at age 44 seems to amount to:
    · Eat sensibly, using the very broad guidelines which any dietition can give you.
    · Drink quite a bit less than your own weight in Guinness per day.
    · Inhale pure atmosphere only.
    · Exercise. And again. Not good enough, do it again. Daily.

    I’m still here; my dad died at 49.

    (Edit: ...and eat great quantities of statin. Tasty.)
  15. I'm on statins and all sorts after getting a new hole in the heart whilst serving. I've taken them for over a year now and my cholestoral has dropped but I like to think I've supped enough porridge for a free kilt and that's helped. Your right though it is your choice and if you try them and experience side affects just stop. oh and here's an egg to suck.

    good luck