Chinook Pilots finally to be cleared of gross negligence?

#1
This story just popped up on the Telegraph website.

How long has this campaign been going on and how long have the RAF head cheeses been resisting this?



Pilots 'cleared' over Mull of Kintyre Chinook crash - Telegraph


The pilots of a Chinook helicopter which crashed in Scotland killing all 29 people on board were not to blame for the tragedy, an official review is expected to conclude.
 
#2
Good to see, but struck by a comment from one of the family that it would be nice for them to have been told first - do Newspapers ever consider that the MoD may have a mechanism for telling people before the official announcement and leaks like this scupper this process.
 

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#3
Now this wouldn't be a case of the MoD releasing a potentially bad bit of news, for them, on a weekend? Not only that, but a weekend that has most journalists salivating over the implosion of the News of the World and the damage this is doing to the Murdoch empire?

Surely this is not a case of 'burying bad news'?
 
#4
T'was my initial thoughts too. Having said that, the essential fact is that from what I've seen and read, this is long overdue.

Is there any chance EVER that things will be formally announced without things being floated in the press first?
 
#8
The pilots of a Chinook helicopter which crashed in Scotland killing all 29 people on board were not to blame for the tragedy, an official review is expected to conclude. Now, after a nine-month inquiry, Lord Philip’s recommendations have been submitted to Mr Fox, who is due to make a statement to MPs on the findings next week.
Campaigners hope that the defence secretary will posthumously clear the pilots of blame.
All the news before it happens.

B
 

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#9
I wonder if Rockhopper Crab will grace these boards to apologise for his comments on previous Kintyre threads.
 
#11
ABOUT BLOODY TIME!


But will those that have been toeing the RAF party line here on ARRSE that it was the pilots fault eat some public humble pie?
 
#13
What a farce!

I think that whoever decided to blame the two pilots as scapegoats should now be in the dock themselves.

This whole inquiry was a ****ing disgrace.

Now years after, the verdicts were deemed to be unsafe.
 
#14
"Surely this is not a case of 'burying bad news'?"

Well they tried to bury it with the aircrew.

"What a farce!

I think that whoever decided to blame the two pilots as scapegoats should now be in the dock themselves.

This whole inquiry was a ****ing disgrace.

Now years after, the verdicts were deemed to be unsafe."

Correct sir What a farce !

john
 
#15
I remember this, the Mk 1 they where originally tasked to fly was re-tasked with recovering one of our Lynx ( Mk 2 I believe wasn't cleared for it ), so off went the Mk 2 and a bloody farce it has been ever since. Glad to hear that there may be some resolution for the innocent parties. RIP
 
#16
Listening to Radio 4 today, some crab techie officer who was involved in the original investigation was saying that if they are going to clear the pilots then they will have to have another Board of Inquiry. His basic arguement was that given that there is no evidence of any mechanical failure and there was evidence of broken rules then he can't see how they can come to any other conclusion other than pilot error.

This by the way is not my opinion, it's his.
 
#17
'HIS OPINION.'

So if it's not A or B then it's definitely C.
No sorry wrong, like most air cashes it's a combination of D, E, F and so much more.

Pilots where cheap shot for Senior Officers who had other plans & schemes.

john
 
#19
It happens far too often. If the pilot(s) die then they almost always get the blame.

I can't comment on the airworthiness of the Chinook in general as I'd left the service long before they were introduced.
 
#20
The old buffer that Gobbly wobbly mentioned said that aircrew weren't automatically made scape-goats as a default position. He must have been in a different air-force to me. Since time immemorial rule one for accident investigations seemed to be "if they are dead blame the crew"

Don't suppose the Air Marshall had a vested interest in supporting the status quo....
 

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