Chinese wine?

#2
My last experience with it was in Harbin a few years and it was pretty rough. Supposedly, some vineyards have been taking on experienced French and Latin American managers so you never know your luck these days.

Some of the best grapes I've ever had were from Xinjiang, so it's not as if the raw material isn't there. If you give it a bash, will you let us know how you get on?
 

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#3
well Chinese wine is ok but once you finish a bottle , ten minutes later you want another .
 
#4
In fairness, that's how I feel about wine from pretty much any country.
 
#5
I have always found Chinese wine to be of good quality. The French had a hand in helping them start off and as long as you buy a bottle at a reasonable price it should be OK.
 
#6
About 15 years ago I was told by someone in the drinks trade who regularly visited China that Chinese wine would one day dominate. He said that the Chinese had more vineyards than the rest of the world put together. The big issue back then was quality control. He predicted that once they had experienced Western wine producers working with them on quality control, they would really take off.
 
#8
About 15 years ago I was told by someone in the drinks trade who regularly visited China that Chinese wine would one day dominate. He said that the Chinese had more vineyards than the rest of the world put together. The big issue back then was quality control. He predicted that once they had experienced Western wine producers working with them on quality control, they would really take off.
They have a very long way to go

http://www.wineinstitute.org/files/2010_World_Wine_Production_by_Country.pdf
 
#9
My local take away gave me a bottle once , sickly sweet shite , bit like sherry (not that Ive ever drank sherry)
 
#10
If it's owt like the bottle I once tried in our local Chinese restaurant, I'd avoid it like the plague or at least already be very, very drunk on something else first.
 

Ravers

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#11
I have a bottle of Bulgarian red that one of the wife's Bulgarian work colleagues gave us.

Any experience on Bulgarian rouge? I've googled the stuff and our bottle appears to range in price between 3 and 40 euros depending on where you look.
 
#12
Ravers, it was the 'up and coming' about 20 years ago - dirt-cheap, which belied its quality (Victoria Wine was doing it at about £2.99 a bottle). Some of it is very passable indeed.

(Of course, now I've said that the one you've got is going to be shit, isn't it...)
 

Ravers

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#13
Ravers, it was the 'up and coming' about 20 years ago - dirt-cheap, which belied its quality (Victoria Wine was doing it at about £2.99 a bottle). Some of it is very passable indeed.

(Of course, now i've said that the one you've got is goign to be shit, isn't it...)
Jolly good, I'll give it a try when I don't have anything important to do the following day.

Tonight would work actually.
 
#14
I received a bottle of Bulgarian red as freebee from a firm, Thought that was a bit of a bummer as the previous year it was a bottle of whisky but with the recession it was better than nought. On opening it I was very pleasantly surprised excellent wine. quaff away mate :wave:
 

Ravers

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#15
I received a bottle of Bulgarian red as freebee from a firm, Thought that was a bit of a bummer as the previous year it was a bottle of whisky but with the recession it was better than nought. On opening it I was very pleasantly surprised excellent wine. quaff away mate :wave:
Just opened it now. It's called Terra Tangra, it's a 2006. Seems alright, pretty heavy, very full bodied and dark, hints of cherry, chocolate and oak......pah, who am I kidding? It tastes like red wine.

Cool metal label though.
 

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#17
The Bulgarians make some decent wine, but it is very rare to find it for sale in the UK. The main problem is volume: the UK supermarkets demand X hundred thousand bottles for their shelves from a winemaker before they will stock it...

...bit of a problem when he only makes 8,000. Most of their wine is very heavy and a significant amount is still semi-sweet red (puke). Romania also makes some excellent wine, now the French have given them some skills, knowledge and equipment. The best wine in the region is still from Hungary though: some wines from Villany are superb. Austria also makes some fantastic wines in Burgenland (used be part of Hungary). Hungarian and Austrian reds, when good, tend to be overpriced.

I was in Annecy over the weekend and picked up a couple of cases of grand vins du Bordeaux and premier cru (mainly from Blaye). Fantastic wines for EUR 5 - 10 a bottle.
 
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The Bulgarians make some decent wine, but it is very rare to find it for sale in the UK. The main problem is volume: the UK supermarkets demand X hundred thousand bottles for their shelves from a winemaker before they will stock it...

...bit of a problem when he only makes 8,000. Most of their wine is very heavy and a significant amount is still semi-sweet red (puke). Romania also makes some excellent wine, now the French have given them some skills, knowledge and equipment. The best wine in the region is still from Hungary though: some wines from Villany are superb. Austria also makes some fantastic wines in Burgenland (used be part of Hungary). Hungarian and Austrian reds, when good, tend to be overpriced.

I was in Annecy over the weekend and picked up a couple of cases of grand vins du Bordeaux and premier cru (mainly from Blaye). Fantastic wines for EUR 5 - 10 a bottle.
My bold - Did you have a firearm with you?
 
#20
I don't care if the Chinese are now making Sloe gin and delivering it direct to your door by hand punted sampan for 9p a litre. They are a nation of criminal ******* ********* and if it says P.R.C on the packet, then I'm not buying it!
 

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