Chinese ships will fight pirates

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    Sorry if it's been done before.

    This seems a very significant change in Chinese military policy.
  2. Interesting stuff, bl00dy beeb though, doesn't say if they're going to be integrated with the other forces or working independantly...
  3. It's some big muscles China has got, needs to flex 'em from time to time.
  4. From IHT
    China's navy, officially known as the People's Liberation Army Navy, has long concentrated on coastal defense and regional maneuvers. But in recent years it has embarked on an ambitious modernization plan. The principal mission for Chinese naval vessels in the Gulf of Aden would presumably be the escorting of Chinese cargo ships and oil tankers from the Middle East bound for Chinese ports. Policing patrols, some maritime experts suggested, would be secondary. But Mody said Thursday it would be important for the Chinese effort to be melded "on an operational level" with other navies already patrolling in the gulf. The European Union recently launched an antipiracy operation in the gulf, and several other nations have a naval presence there, including ships from India, the United States and Russia.
  5. Little bit more info there, cheers singha61!
  6. BrunoNoMedals

    BrunoNoMedals LE Reviewer

    It's a win-win for the Chinese. They can protect their shipping and boost their rapidly-expanding markets, while giving their new modern Navy a decent run-out to see how they perform and get some experience. All the while they'll be doing so in a setting that makes them look bold and decisive while fighting (what the majority see as) a good and worthwhile cause - particularly if they do it jointly with other nations or at the least work to protect non-Chinese shipping where they can.
  7. in_the_cheapseats

    in_the_cheapseats LE Moderator

    Agree. The amount of goodwill they will generate from this will do them no harm. Now I wonder if they will hand out summary justice too? It was the way the Somalis themselves stopped piracy a few years ago before the country went to rats.

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  8. BrunoNoMedals

    BrunoNoMedals LE Reviewer

    I wouldn't be surprised. They have the "benefit" of knowing the general global opinion of them, and the fact that they're big enough not to give a monkey's. If they topped a few pirates, destroyed a few boats, I don't think the public would really mind - in fact I think many would applaud them (I would). Some governments and 'ooman rites goons would moan, and people would ignore them.

    That said, the Chinese may feel some need to pander to foreign opinion and hold back a little for the sake of diplomacy. In this case, I hope not!
  9. msr

    msr LE

    Can't see the Chinese getting to hung up over the Human Rights Act / Asylum Seekers / Pirates / RoE

  10. Read a report in on of the rags yesterday from someone who spent a bit of time talking to some of the pirates.

    They are not in the least bit worried by the operation that is ongoing at the moment as they either a) wait until the big grey ships have shoved off before going after a cargo ship or b) get captured and given a trip back to shore (only thing that the Navies can do to them).

    I do hope the Chinese decide to save a bit of time and fuel and just sink them.
  11. What's the betting the number of Pirates the Chinese capture alive, will be at a ratio of Zero per engagement :)
  12. It'll be interesting to see how they make out-the latest referances I can make out for the PLAN actually engaging in combat was the Battle of the Paracel Islands in 1974 against the South vietnamese, and a skirmish with the Vietnamese in '88, no referance I can find to any naval fighting in 1979, they've certainly invested a lot in new kit and training, but their doctrine is unconfirmed by actual experience, so will be interesting to see how well they do...
  13. Their young men should have loads of fun, hopefully sinking pirates and machine-gunning the survivors in the water. China also gets to increase her naval presence around Indonesia and the Indian Ocean en route in a manner that is UN approved and non-threatening to India. Trebles all round!
  14. PLAN has always been the weakest element of the PLA and China has no real tradition of overseas power-projection, so it'll be interesting to see how they cope. For my money, they'll be 'correct' in their treatment of any prisoners but won't go out of their way to acquire any.

    Their Marines are supposed to be pretty good, though. Perhaps some representatives of the Indian Marines might confirm, I've heard they staged joint exercises recently?
  15. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Let that be a lesson to the rest of us. Want to attack a ship on the open seas with weapons . . . . . maritime act of war . . . . . get shot up and die . . . . job done.

    All this human rights/ROE bowlarks is a crippling waste of time. Simple answer is to shoot the attacking boat to pieces and kill the occupants - let's see how long it remains a popular pastime off the Somali coast.