China's Main Battle Tank -2021

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
IIRC correctly the Chinese have little to no experience of conducting armoured operations against a real armoured opponent.

The only time they did commit armour in any numbers was against the Vietnamese in 1979, when the PAVN Vietnamese army gave the Chinese a damn good kicking...

It's all very well having lots of armour but if you don't know how to use it...

Sino-Vietnamese border conflict (1979)​




Battle of Cao Bang, Type 62 destroyed
Type 62 destroyed at Cao Bang.
Is he carrying 'that pistol' there?
 
I am a bit baffled. What are you on about?
The occasions when Vietnam went to the Qing Empire, Republic of China and People's Republic for help against foreign invaders. In just the last 200 years they've sought help against the French, Japanese, French again and Americans.

It doesn't mean they take long showers into the wee hours together but it does demonstrate that the relationship is a lot more complex than it's usually depicted on these boards.
 

Bardeyai

Old-Salt
Non-armoured ex REMF here.

Please excuse a really stupid question - is the Chinese Main Battle Tank any good ?

Type 99 main battle tank design

Type 99 is similar, in a lot of specifications, to the M1A1 tank and the Western Leopard 2. Western influences have been noticed in the angular welded turret design.

The MBT carries 9M119 Refleks. This anti-tank guided missile of Russian origin is produced in China under a local licence. Its NATO codename is AT-11 Sniper. The diesel engine is turbo charged and uses German technology, and the tank is liquid cooled.

Explosive reaction armour (ERA) units were added to the turret and hull’s front portion. This contains approximately 1,000mm to1,200mm of steel armour. The Type 99 has a 1,500HP diesel engine while the ZTZ98 uses a 1,200HP diesel engine. The tank layout has three compartments. Frontage has the driving compartment; the middle serves as fighting compartment and the engine is placed at the rear end.

The driver sits in the hull and in front of the turret, while the gunner sits on the left side of the turret. Tank commander takes up the turret’s right side and operates the 12.7 mm anti-aircraft machine gun. The gun is mounted on turret roof. An over-pressure collective NBC protection and a fully automatic fire suppression system protect the crew.

The hull and turret are built of welded steel armour. The modular design allows damaged sections to be easily replaced. New upgrades can be placed giving it increased service life. The turret’s inside design layout is modelled on Russian style. The MBT closely resembles the Russian 2A46M autoloader’s design. There is provision for extra ammunition in the fighting compartment. This makes the MBT highly susceptible to fire once penetrated. The MBT requires a bustle autoloader, on which production has not been started yet.



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Thanks. I'll get my coat
That second photo: Is it just me that wonders if traversing the turret would take the drivers head off?
Especially if the gun is depressed.
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
This pistol - surely a revolver ?


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They have quantity, they will soon match for quality ( Their exported stuff has improved in those stakes ) . In terms of practical application or creation of a doctrine, they take very good looks at what we get up to, our failures and successes.
I wonder if they'll be won over by our fast and light when competing with any of their neighbours.
 
That seems like a rather large oversight
The autoloader has still not gone into production, trials have proved it is plagued with problems.
Which makes the tank a viable get from A to B vehicle plus a platform for the 12.7mm but nothing else.
No mention of a BV.
A big fail at the moment.
 
The autoloader has still not gone into production, trials have proved it is plagued with problems.
Which makes the tank a viable get from A to B vehicle plus a platform for the 12.7mm but nothing else.
No mention of a BV.
A big fail at the moment.
Autoloader=no loader=no BV operator!
Another big fail!
 
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