CHINA'S LIABILITY?

Hhmmm. I cannot for one minute believe that China will ever accept any responsibility for this virus. If you think that aunty Gladys keeling over will get her family members a payout from the Chinos, you are smoking some bad sh!t man.
 
Force majeure, ‘nuff said.
Down stream of China perhaps... but no absolution for China for its active deceit in violation of the Articles of The International Health Regulations it is signatory to, establishing its liability for proper action and notification. It expressly chose to violate several of The International Law Commission's Articles on State Responsibility, establishing more than enough evidence of ill action and intent, which has created this "superiour force."

If legal action cannot extract a "full restitution" monetary settlement as provided under Article 31, then there are other means provided for to extract some restitution from China, from suspending any obligations to them all the way up to booting China out of any UN leadership positions they currently hold.
 
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The power of a government-controlled economy.

'A Chinese government-backed property giant has secretly raided in bulk Australia’s supplies of masks, hand sanitiser, antibacterial wipes and essential medical supplies and shipped them back to China.

'The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported. Three million surgical masks, 500,000 pairs of gloves and bulk supplies of sanitiser and wipes were bought up in Australia and other countries where Greenland operates.

'While the bulk purchases and shipping were perfectly legitimate, the goods shipped in bulk to China include the very items that have been in short supply for Australian citizens as well as health professionals. They were accumulated at Greenland’s Sydney headquarters and sent to China over weeks in January and February.

'As coronavirus locked down Wuhan, the global Fortune 500 company put its normal work on hold and instructed staff in Australia, Canada, Turkey and elsewhere to source supplies. Pallet loads of items including thermometers and 700,000 hazmat suits were sent to China, the Herald reported. Greenland deployed its HR staff members, contract managers and others away from their desks to go out and amass as many of the items as possible.'


 

Sackerson

Old-Salt
An interesting article about bringing China up before the beak after this blows over.
Remember to read this in the context of the current international popularity tussle between the US and China...
China Is Legally Responsible for COVID-19 Damage and Claims Could Be in the Trillions - War on the Rocks
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The last 24 hours have seen the Covid19 narrative – blamestormed as the cause of stock market collapse, with the finger being pointed at Beijing – unravelling on several fronts. Alongside this, several contradictions in the PaniCovid ‘lockdown’ approach look suspiciously unlikely to live up to either death-rate predictions or promises of efficacy.

Specifically, the Chinese have added more detail in relation to World Military Games in China of last October.

The 300-stong US contingent stayed at the Wuhan Oriental Hotel. It is located a mere 300 meters from the Huanan Seafood Market, where China’s outbreak began.

Five of US troopers developed a fever on October 25, and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment. Very rapidly, 42 employees of the Oriental Hotel were diagnosed with COVID-19. At the time, only 7 people from the market were thus diagnosed, though they were treated first. All 7 had contact with the 42 from the hotel.

The most sensational part of this account, however, is that prior to the Games, the American team had trained at a location near Fort Detrick – the military’s viral lab that was hastily closed down following ‘various deficiencies’.

The Beijing Government’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi, on releasing this information, formally asked US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for an explanation.

Immediately afterwards Pompeo went over Wang’s head and phoned Yang Jiechi, Chinese state councillor in charge of foreign affairs. Pompeo “begged” Yang not to release the details shown above. They have since been leaked. Pompeo has yet to respond.'

 
Down stream of China perhaps... but no absolution for China for its active deceit in violation of the Articles of The International Health Regulations it is signatory to, establishing its liability for proper action and notification. It expressly chose to violate several of The International Law Commission's Articles on State Responsibility, establishing more than enough evidence of ill action and intent, which has created this "superiour force."

If legal action cannot extract a "full restitution" monetary settlement as provided under Article 31, then there are other means provided for to extract some restitution from China, from suspending any obligations to them all the way up to booting China out of any UN leadership positions they currently hold.
Yeah cos the world is really going to punish a nuclear power with a shit load of cash and strong economy.
 
Considering most of the supplies and factories that produce face masks and protective equipments are located in China, it will take a brave country to piss China up in the coming months. I suspect all the talks of human rights in China will suddendly be put on the back burner as nations frantically try to secure the next batch of masks coming out the Chinese production lines....
 
Yeah cos the world is really going to punish a nuclear power with a shit load of cash and strong economy.
There is law, and form, but the majority of the planet is craven and will only accuse such powers that it understands will not commit to wholesale retribution against them, but they will step in line behind their favorite whipping boy/protector with their greedy hands extended when it stands up to collect.
 

FakeSheikh2

Old-Salt
Well China is where most of our hi end tech & cisco kit comes from, so all they are doing is making less revenue and less production which will hurt them as suppliers look to switch to other manufacturer bases around the world. And China will lose out.

We are now sourcing kit made elsewhere in the world and getting it to customers.
It might take longer to supply and be more expensive but then your profit margin is lower.
 

endure

GCM
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The last 24 hours have seen the Covid19 narrative – blamestormed as the cause of stock market collapse, with the finger being pointed at Beijing – unravelling on several fronts. Alongside this, several contradictions in the PaniCovid ‘lockdown’ approach look suspiciously unlikely to live up to either death-rate predictions or promises of efficacy.

Specifically, the Chinese have added more detail in relation to World Military Games in China of last October.

The 300-stong US contingent stayed at the Wuhan Oriental Hotel. It is located a mere 300 meters from the Huanan Seafood Market, where China’s outbreak began.

Five of US troopers developed a fever on October 25, and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment. Very rapidly, 42 employees of the Oriental Hotel were diagnosed with COVID-19. At the time, only 7 people from the market were thus diagnosed, though they were treated first. All 7 had contact with the 42 from the hotel.

The most sensational part of this account, however, is that prior to the Games, the American team had trained at a location near Fort Detrick – the military’s viral lab that was hastily closed down following ‘various deficiencies’.

The Beijing Government’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi, on releasing this information, formally asked US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for an explanation.

Immediately afterwards Pompeo went over Wang’s head and phoned Yang Jiechi, Chinese state councillor in charge of foreign affairs. Pompeo “begged” Yang not to release the details shown above. They have since been leaked. Pompeo has yet to respond.'


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Well China is where most of our hi end tech & cisco kit comes from, so all they are doing is making less revenue and less production which will hurt them as suppliers look to switch to other manufacturer bases around the world. And China will lose out.

We are now sourcing kit made elsewhere in the world and getting it to customers.
It might take longer to supply and be more expensive but then your profit margin is lower.
Chinese investment has dropped from over $45B/year to under $5B/year in the last 3 years, and the US economy managed to expand over the same period. Suspending all the Chinese investment in the US would only improve US position as a recompense, while putting the screws to China for their illegal actions.
 
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The last 24 hours have seen the Covid19 narrative – blamestormed as the cause of stock market collapse, with the finger being pointed at Beijing – unravelling on several fronts. Alongside this, several contradictions in the PaniCovid ‘lockdown’ approach look suspiciously unlikely to live up to either death-rate predictions or promises of efficacy.

Specifically, the Chinese have added more detail in relation to World Military Games in China of last October.

The 300-stong US contingent stayed at the Wuhan Oriental Hotel. It is located a mere 300 meters from the Huanan Seafood Market, where China’s outbreak began.

Five of US troopers developed a fever on October 25, and were taken to an infectious-diseases hospital for treatment. Very rapidly, 42 employees of the Oriental Hotel were diagnosed with COVID-19. At the time, only 7 people from the market were thus diagnosed, though they were treated first. All 7 had contact with the 42 from the hotel.

The most sensational part of this account, however, is that prior to the Games, the American team had trained at a location near Fort Detrick – the military’s viral lab that was hastily closed down following ‘various deficiencies’.

The Beijing Government’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi, on releasing this information, formally asked US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for an explanation.

Immediately afterwards Pompeo went over Wang’s head and phoned Yang Jiechi, Chinese state councillor in charge of foreign affairs. Pompeo “begged” Yang not to release the details shown above. They have since been leaked. Pompeo has yet to respond.'

And contrails.

You missed out contrails.
 
It came from China->I almost certain the official chinese statistics are away with the fairies and as others highlight the chinese are so ahead of the curve they're are likely as not starting to profit from this..... However much the globalists pretend otherwise, ALL our problems stem from china and after this crisis is over business/government need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves the simple question: Is it worth it ? such close ties may garner a great quarterly report, but if every 10 years we're going in future to be hit by a pandemic, which costs the nation 20+ years of debt, then who is the fool.
 
There is law, and form, but the majority of the planet is craven and will only accuse such powers that it understands will not commit to wholesale retribution against them, but they will step in line behind their favorite whipping boy/protector with their greedy hands extended when it stands up to collect.
Whose law and who is going to enforce it?
China was parking its tanks on top of it citizens 31 years ago, everyone still likes the Chinese for their money and trade.
 

Dredd

LE
It came from China->I almost certain the official chinese statistics are away with the fairies and as others highlight the chinese are so ahead of the curve they're are likely as not starting to profit from this..... However much the globalists pretend otherwise, ALL our problems stem from china and after this crisis is over business/government need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves the simple question: Is it worth it ? such close ties may garner a great quarterly report, but if every 10 years we're going in future to be hit by a pandemic, which costs the nation 20+ years of debt, then who is the fool.
Chi-NA.

China
 
The power of a government-controlled economy.

'The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported. Three million surgical masks, 500,000 pairs of gloves and bulk supplies of sanitiser and wipes were bought up in Australia and other countries where Greenland operates.

'While the bulk purchases and shipping were perfectly legitimate, the goods shipped in bulk to China include the very items that have been in short supply for Australian citizens as well as health professionals. They were accumulated at Greenland’s Sydney headquarters and sent to China over weeks in January and February.




My bold - did they bulk buy the tin foil too?

It seems not.
 
It came from China->I almost certain the official chinese statistics are away with the fairies and as others highlight the chinese are so ahead of the curve they're are likely as not starting to profit from this..... However much the globalists pretend otherwise, ALL our problems stem from china and after this crisis is over business/government need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves the simple question: Is it worth it ? such close ties may garner a great quarterly report, but if every 10 years we're going in future to be hit by a pandemic, which costs the nation 20+ years of debt, then who is the fool.
Sky News Australia last week was reporting that China was already using the crisis to buy up assets cheaply. SNA commentator was demanding that China shouldn't be allowed to buy up Australian firms that were struggling due to the crisis caused by China. That makes sense to me, but will the powers that be take along hard look at our relationship with China and wind it in? It looks like Donald Trump is the only one prepared to do that, and at best he only has another five years to do it.
 
Whose law and who is going to enforce it?
China was parking its tanks on top of it citizens 31 years ago, everyone still likes the Chinese for their money and trade.
The UN, International Law Commission's Articles on State Responsibility, and the International Health Regulations it is signatory to.

Everyone will like taking all that Chinese investment in their infrastructures til now as their own without having to "pay", as reimbursement for the troubles caused even more.
 
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