China Warships To Contested Gas Field

#1
China has sent five warships, including a guided missile destroyer, to Chunxiao gas field in the East China Sea.

China is apparently thus reinforcing its claim to natural gas which is also claimed by Japan.

"China deploys ships to area Japan claims
Tensions rise as fleet of warships appears near disputed gas field just days before election and a few weeks before drilling is to begin" by Norimitsu Onishi and Howard French. 11 September 2005
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/11/MNGDGELU7M1.DTL
 
#2
If you think that's bad, just wait and see what'll happen with the Spratly Islands. Sooner, rather than later.

The PRC’s Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010 kg), as compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010 kg) held by Kuwait, placing it as the fourth largest reserve bed in the world
You can check their Wikipedia entry here.
 
#3
February 1995, the PRC occupied Mischief Reef, creating a substantial political crisis in Southeast Asia, especially with the Philippines. In early 1999, these disputes escalated as the Philippines claimed that the PRC was building military installations on the reef. Although the disputes have calmed to some degree, they still remain one of the most plausible scenarios for a major East Asian war involving the PRC or a smaller war between other claimants.
Rather chilling reading.
 
#4
Jap has best oriental navy so could get intresting. Think it will end with some serious jaw jaw, but China is sensitive on what it considers Traditional Chinese territory.
john
 
#5
Think there was a book bysome septic about China annexing the Spratly's .
They do seem to be flexing their military muscle at the moment, and haven't we been saying that they are the power to watch and be wary of?
The Chinese are the biggest growing economy in the world and the largest importer of fossil fuels in the world, so the oil/gas fields in that area would be a welcome gain for them.
Do remember that some American oil exploration was done early 80's in the area, but was shelved at the time as uneconomic, but times change and life is cheap in China .
 
#6
Wouldn't that be a Tom Clancy book? Or was it Larry Bond?
 
#7
May have been Clancy, don't remember off-hand.
But did read in several papers that the plot wasn't too far fetched, and i think one of the reviewers was Sandy Woodward
 
#8
Every man and his dog claims all or some of the Spratlly Islands. This includes nations who have defence agreements with the US, Britain and Australia so it has the potential to get very nasty. However, the Chinese know this as well an the term MAD springs to mind.
 
#10
Listy said:
PartTimePongo said:
Wouldn't that be a Tom Clancy book? Or was it Larry Bond?
Larry bond did one about Korea and the US haveing a bust up, called Red Pheinox.
It's Tom Clancy - SSN. Not one of his better efforts (think it was supposed to be a companion to a computer game).

lancslad
 
#12
Darthspud said:
May have been Clancy, don't remember off-hand.
But did read in several papers that the plot wasn't too far fetched, and i think one of the reviewers was Sandy Woodward
The last part of Clancy's "Debt of Honor" was about 'planes crashing into buildings in Washington D.C. so he's quite often on the ball. From his Acknowledgements pages it is obvious that he talks with and listens to U.S. security specialists - it's a shame that the U.S. Administration doesn't appear to...:roll:
 
#13
wasn't it one plane crashing into a building ? The pilot of the plane was a Captain Sato. One of the Clancy novels was a bout arabs exploding a nuke at the superbowl ! scary thought.
 
#14
DEEFER said:
wasn't it one plane crashing into a building ? The pilot of the plane was a Captain Sato. One of the Clancy novels was a bout arabs exploding a nuke at the superbowl ! scary thought.
Yes, one 'plane into the Capitol Building IIRC - not sure why I used the plural for both in my previous post.
 
#15
PartTimePongo said:
Wouldn't that be a Tom Clancy book? Or was it Larry Bond?
Already done - SSN by Tom Clancy, one of the most boring books ever written.

Edit:
Bugg*r! - Lancslad beat me to it.
 

maninblack

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#16
The interesting background to this is the possible Chinese perceived overstretch in the US military with New Orleans and Iraq coupled with a sudden leap in fuel prices. China has a rapidly growing fuel requirement and a fragile economy based on western exports from cheap labour sources.

This has the potential to go horribly wrong very quickly if the decisions are being made by the illiterate 80 year olds peasant workers who seem to rise to power in their system.
 
#17
maninblack said:
The interesting background to this is the possible Chinese perceived overstretch in the US military with New Orleans and Iraq coupled with a sudden leap in fuel prices. China has a rapidly growing fuel requirement and a fragile economy based on western exports from cheap labour sources.

This has the potential to go horribly wrong very quickly if the decisions are being made by the illiterate 80 year olds peasant workers who seem to rise to power in their system.
And our "leader" who probably jokingly mentioned on his recent visit to China that the UK have few military resources left. Unless of course, he has done a "quid-pro-quo" deal whereby we sit this one out for exchange of cheap Chinese fuel??
 
#18
does this mean I'll have to boycott Crispy Aromatic Duck from my local Chinky?
It is unlikely that you will find your local takeaway owner has any loyalty to the PRC, his family likely left the old country a couple of hundred years agao for some part of our Empire or more recently left Honkers to avoid being ruled by the commies.

Boycott Starbucks, thats where you'll find visiting students from the PRC working.
 
#19
The PRC is at a disadvantage in a face off with Japan. The gas fields are within range of JSDF fighters on Okinawa. The Japanese Navy is very modern as opposed to the PLAN which is still largely made up of obsolete designs.
 
#20
Yerp it was Clancy , and the computer game that went with it is pretty poor too.
Just remembered about a book by Dale Brown called Storming Heaven, all about crashing laden aircraft into selected targets in the U.S.
Apparently he's an ex B52 nav
 

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