China - and the dangerous drift to war in Asia

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by sunnoficarus, Mar 25, 2013.

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  1. Yes, I imagine that this book was very well researched. Thanks for that!
     
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  3. Funnily enough I did exactly the same this weekend. Reading it again, but now living in Hong Kong, the political possibilities are still very real.
     
  4. Chinese bomber flies round contested Spratlys in show of force - U.S. official
    Chinese bomber allegedly 'show of force' which is probably in retaliation to earlier US flights:
     
  5. China changes start date of war with Japan, says will bolster patriotic education
    China apparently amending history books to make the earlier 1931 (rather than the 1937 one) incident the start of their 'Chinese War Against Japanese Aggression'
    Not sure on the correct title for their war: Museum of the War of Chinese People's Resistance Against Japanese Aggression - Wikipedia
     
  6. As the story says, they're on their way back to China from the western Pacific. It's rather fascinating how the headline and opening sentence seem to be phrased in a manner which implies they are headed from China and making a beeline to Taiwan. It's almost as if someone is trying to set an emotional tone with which to colour the reader's impression of the rest of the story.
     
  7. China's only aircraft carrier has led several warships across the Taiwan Strait, Taiwan's defence ministry said.

    The Liaoning was returning from drills in the South China Sea.

    I take your point on that one. Questions are Why would they sail through the straight ?. Is it the most direct return route. Were they avoiding bad weather ? or Just making a point ?.
     
  8. Not from you.
     
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  9. Come on, we're not supposed to get upset by Chinese vessels going to sea in international waters but it's okay for China to be upset when the US exercises freedom of navigation:
    U.S. warship challenges China's claims in South China Sea

    E2A: Taiwan scrambles jets, navy as China aircraft carrier enters Taiwan Strait
    Apparently it's usual for the Chinese aircraft carrier to do this:
     
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  10. There's nothing in the story to tell us where they actually went. In fact the story directly contradicts itself as at one point it claims the ships went "across the strait", while at another point it claims they went "through the strait". I needn't point out that there is a huge difference between crossing a strait and passing through a strait.

    If you look at other news reports however: http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2058888/j-15-fighter-jets-chinas-liaoning-aircraft-carrier-make , then you see that they have been on a long series of exercises since December. They started out in the Bohai Sea in northern China, went eastwards into the western Pacific, then down to the South China Sea. They may possibly be on the return leg of their journey back to northern China, in which case they may be going north through the straits (not across the straits at the BBC headline claims).
     
  11. The US FONEs take place in what the PRC considers to be territorial waters. Failing to protest would be taken as a tacit admission they accepted they aren't.
     
  12. Thanks. I understand that and appreciate your previous posts on 'the nine dash line' etc. Gave me a lot more insight tbh.
     
  13. Trump nominee says China should be denied access to South China sea islands
    Tillerson in the South China Sea:
    Blames the previous administration:
     
  14. Journos write a story. Subbies and editors pitch it the most captivating way. It's a paper and ink equivalent of clickbait