China - and the dangerous drift to war in Asia

Further to the Japan - South Korea spat, in a speech during the independence day celebrations President Moon called on Japan to choose "the path of dialogue and co-operation" and for Japan to "contemplates a past that brought misfortune to its neighbouring countries,"
"We hope that Japan will play a leading role together in facilitating peace and prosperity in East Asia while it contemplates a past that brought misfortune to its neighbouring countries," said Moon.

"Better late than never: if Japan chooses the path of dialogue and co-operation, we will gladly join hands."
Moon's speech seems to have been at least partially sparked by Japanese PM Abe sending an offering to the Japanese Yasukuni shrine, notorious for its associations with Japanese war criminals.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Thursday sent a ritual monetary offering to the controversial Yasukuni shrine for war dead in Tokyo. He did not visit in person, an act which would have sparked a heated reaction from Seoul.

Seoul's foreign ministry expressed "deep concerns" over Abe sending the offering to a shrine that "beautifies Japan's colonial pillage and aggressive war."
In Moon's speech he also mentioned North Korea. Rather interestingly he mentioned a target date of 2045 for the reunification of Korea.
"When economic co-operation accelerates and the peace economy begins, unification will beckon," Moon said.

"I pledge to solidify the foundation so that we can ... stand tall in the world as one Korea by achieving peace and unification by 2045."
 
Divide and conquer (or at least dominate). We make it so easy for our adversaries.
The issue seems to be related to Japan not wanting to pay compensation for slave labour and other abuses during their colonial rule of Korea. The Japanese say the issue is closed, while the South Koreans are saying "oh not it isn't". There are protests going on about it in South Korea which the government cannot easily ignore.
 
The issue seems to be related to Japan not wanting to pay compensation for slave labour and other abuses during their colonial rule of Korea. The Japanese say the issue is closed, while the South Koreans are saying "oh not it isn't". There are protests going on about it in South Korea which the government cannot easily ignore.
I have no issue, one way or the other with national positions, but things like this make it very easy for adversaries to exploit fissures in democratic unity.
 
Relations between Japan and South Korea continue to deteriorate as South Korean has now cancelled intelligence-sharing with Japan.
South Korea said Thursday it is cancelling an intelligence-sharing pact with Japan amid a bitter trade dispute, a surprise announcement likely to set back U.S. efforts to bolster mutual security co-operation with two of its most important allies in the Asian region.
The news story described relations between the two countries as being at their lowest point since they established diplomatic relations in 1965.
The South Korean decision will also further aggravate its ties with Japan that are already at their lowest point since the two countries established diplomatic ties in 1965. Japan colonized the Korean Peninsula from 1910 to 1945.
The South Koreans say that intelligence cooperation with Japan no longer serves South Korea's interests.
"Under this situation, the government has determined that maintaining the agreement, which was signed for the purpose of exchanging sensitive military intelligence on security, does not serve our national interests," Kim You-geun, deputy director of South Korea's presidential national security office, said in a nationally televised statement.
Official Japanese reaction to this has been careful, but appears to indicate that this has not gone down well in Tokyo.
Japan's Kyodo News agency quoted an unidentified Japanese government official as saying the South Korean decision was "extremely regrettable." Public broadcaster NHK said an unidentified Japanese official described the decision as "unbelievable," while another official said it was unlikely to have much impact on Japanese security.
This has been a further development in reaction to Japanese trade sanctions against South Korea, which in turn were a reaction to a South Korean court ruling that Japanese companies were liable for their use of Korean slave labour and other abuses during the Japanese colonisation of Korea. South Koreans have held rallies against Japan and there are widespread boycotts of Japanese products.
The Japanese trade curbs triggered an outburst of anti-Japan sentiment in South Korea. Many South Korean citizens rallied in the streets, cancelled planned holiday trips to Japan and launched widespread boycotts of Japanese beer, clothes and other products.
 
Relations between Japan and South Korea continue to deteriorate as South Korean has now cancelled intelligence-sharing with Japan.


The news story described relations between the two countries as being at their lowest point since they established diplomatic relations in 1965.


The South Koreans say that intelligence cooperation with Japan no longer serves South Korea's interests.


Official Japanese reaction to this has been careful, but appears to indicate that this has not gone down well in Tokyo.


This has been a further development in reaction to Japanese trade sanctions against South Korea, which in turn were a reaction to a South Korean court ruling that Japanese companies were liable for their use of Korean slave labour and other abuses during the Japanese colonisation of Korea. South Koreans have held rallies against Japan and there are widespread boycotts of Japanese products.
You would think that SK and JP would be in a good relationship because of NK.
 
The PRC has offered to mediate the dispute.

This is pretty much exactly what Beijing wants - to be the key to solving regional disputes and to accustom their neighbours to looking to them for a lead. It would surprise me if Tokyo took them up on it but with Washington remaining deafeningly silent that could wind up looking bad to the wider audience.
 
this on the BBC,


More to follow?.
Maybe on the rise, but not in the short term at least, especially as the Indians are flexing their muscles with their carriers (who BTW, I recon have more "blue water" naval ops and experience than the Chinese), the Japanese are getting to be more than JSDF with their "quasi-carriers" with F35s, South Koreans getting F35s, the Aussies chipping in as well with more F35s and hosting a big base of USMC.
 
this on the BBC,


More to follow?.
A key point is made in the conclusion to the news story:
Overall the Trump Administration's foreign policy often lacks a clear strategic aspect and is prone to the whims of the Presidential twitter feed and bizarre distractions like his apparent desire to purchase Greenland.

In contrast China knows exactly where it wants to go and it has the strategy and the means to get there. Indeed, for all intents and purposes, it may have already arrived.
 
After repeated denials from both the governments of the Kingdom of Cambodia and the People's Republic of China regarding any military base on Cambodian soil, it has now been confirned the People's Liberation Army-Navy is moving into the Gulf of Siam,


Should the Americans make a counter-move back into the port of Sattahip, and the Naval Station at U-Tapao, the good times may return for the girls (and boys?) in the "massage parlours" in Pattaya.

This may well be a step closer to the start of the Third World War.
 
And here's more oil being poured onto troubled waters,


These F-16s are now being built in one of the Carolinas, deep in red territory, and with the 2020 election looming, it's jobs for the (red) boys, and cfuk the communists in Beijing.
 
Oh dear...


PS he provides sources ;)
 
And here's more oil being poured onto troubled waters,


These F-16s are now being built in one of the Carolinas, deep in red territory, and with the 2020 election looming, it's jobs for the (red) boys, and cfuk the communists in Beijing.
War is good for business.
 
After repeated denials from both the governments of the Kingdom of Cambodia and the People's Republic of China regarding any military base on Cambodian soil, it has now been confirned the People's Liberation Army-Navy is moving into the Gulf of Siam,


Should the Americans make a counter-move back into the port of Sattahip, and the Naval Station at U-Tapao, the good times may return for the girls (and boys?) in the "massage parlours" in Pattaya.

This may well be a step closer to the start of the Third World War.
No wonder the U.S. is "grooming" India as a potential staging base and supplying and offering with a lot of hardware.
 
War is good for business.
IMHO, Taiwan should be supplies with all the hardware they want.

Communists only know one language.

And communist countries are in the game of expansion, by any means possible.
 
War is good for business.
The collapse of the Berlin Wall is generally attributed to the collapse of the Soviet economic system trying to keep up with the West militarily. One day the US will have the world's third largest economy and when it does it will need a friend to help to help it deal with the worlds largest economy. Trump probably doesn't see India this way, but some more intelligent members of the DoD may.
 
And communist countries are in the game of expansion, by any means possible.
Which will explain why the current PRC is smaller than either the original ROC or the original PRC.
 
The collapse of the Berlin Wall is generally attributed to the collapse of the Soviet economic system trying to keep up with the West militarily. One day the US will have the world's third largest economy and when it does it will need a friend to help to help it deal with the worlds largest economy. Trump probably doesn't see India this way, but some more intelligent members of the DoD may.
The inevitable rise and fall of nations..
 
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