China adds six Uighurs to terrorist list

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    China adds six Uighurs to terrorist list

    Beijing claims the men were trained to carry out terror attacks in another south Asian country - most likely Pakistan

    All six, apparently ethnic Uighurs, had spent time in what the ministry called "a certain south Asian country" - a likely reference to Pakistan - where they were trained to carry out terror attacks and incited militants in China to carry out suicide bombings and knife attacks.

    The ministry said Nuermaimaiti Maimaitimin had been given a 10-year jail term in 1999 in the unnamed south Asian country, but had escaped in 2006 and then proceeded to send a comrade-in-arms back to Xinjiang where he masterminded an attack last year.

    "The ministry hopes that foreign governments and their law enforcement departments will help to arrest the six and hand them over to Chinese authorities," the official Xinhua news agency added. The Chinese foreign ministry did not immediately answer faxed questions about where the six suspects allegedly operated.

    China adds six Uighurs to terrorist list | World news | guardian.co.uk
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    It appears that China is getting tired of Pakistani trained terrorists causing turmoil as they firm up their grip in Xinjiang.
     
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    Chinese authorities have asked Pakistan to hand over members of the extremist East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) believed to be operating out of the country, naming six terror suspects in a list issued on Friday that described the group as the "most direct and real safety threat that China faces".

    The six men were “core members” of the ETIM, the Ministry of Public Security said in a statement. They were identified as Nurmemet Memetmin, Abdulkyum Kurban, Paruh Tursun, Tursunjan Ebibla, Nurmemet Raxit and Mamat Imin Nurmamat – all Uighurs, the ethnic Turkic Muslim minority from China’s far-western Xinjiang region which borders Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

    While the ministry's statement stopped short of stating directly their links to terror camps in Pakistan – it only mentioned "a South Asian country” – a separate statement from the Chinese government issued last year identified Mr. Memetmin as having trained terrorists in Pakistan to carry out attacks in the city of Kashgar that left at least 20 people dead.

    Mr. Nurmamat was also believed to be in Pakistan, according to Chinese analysts. The Ministry of Public Security said he had fled China after an explosion triggered accidentally at a bomb-making terror unit in Shache, Xinjiang that was plotting an attack in October 2009.


    The Hindu : News / International : China asks Pakistan to hand over Uighur terrorists
     
  3. OK well at least we know who they are now.
     
  4. We'll see if ISI islamic piety trumps Chinese dollars.
    My guess is the Pashtuns will throw the Uighurs under the ghari.
     
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    China Seeking Counter-Uighur Military Bases In Pakistan?

    In its effort to combat separatist Uighur groups, China is apparently seeking to establish military bases in the part of Pakistan that borders the Uighurs' home province of Xinjiang. That's according to Pakistani journalist Amir Mir, writing in Asia Times:

    While Pakistan wants China to build a naval base at its southwestern seaport of Gwadar in Balochistan province, Beijing is more interested in setting up military bases either in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan or in the Federally Administered Northern Areas (FANA) that border Xinjiang province.

    China Seeking Counter-Uighur Military Bases In Pakistan? | EurasiaNet.org

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    Given the relationship with the US currently, China is Pakistan's only hope.

    They will have to give way to the Chinese?
     
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    Kashgar Officials Blame Pakistan for Harboring Uyghur Terrorists

    Since U.S.-Pakistan relations took a nosedive following the raid to kill Osama bin Laden, Islamabad has appeared to try to woo China as its new superpower ally; Pakistan's prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gillani, called China "Pakistan's best friend" on a visit to Beijing shortly after the bin Laden raid. But the courtship is hitting a rocky patch: Chinese officials say that attacks in the far western city of Kashgar over the weekend were planned in Pakistan, in Uyghur terror training camps there........

    Uyghur activists, along with several foreign experts quoted in these news stories, suggested that blaming Pakistan was an attempt to dodge the fact that it is in fact local people, angry with Beijing's heavy-handed rule over the Uyghur-dominated province of Xinjiang, who are rising up. But the fact that they're pointing the finger at Pakistan is probably making some people in Islamabad pretty nervous. China takes the Uyghur issue VERY seriously, and if they really think that Pakistan is actually harboring Uyghur terrorists, the two countries aren't going to be best friends for long.

    Kashgar Officials Blame Pakistan for Harboring Uyghur Terrorists | EurasiaNet.org
     
  7. The Pakistanis will acquiesce to the Chinese. It'll be interesting to see how the Chinese mollify militant islamists in the ISI when they ethnically cleanse Xinjiang of its Uighur population. Of course with enough money the ISI can be bought, which will pave the way for a mega Chinese exploitative presence in Afghanistan when the USA pull out.
     
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    Note that the Chinese have blamed Pakistan for Uighur Terrorism openly and have named the terrorists and confiscated their property as also impounding their bank accounts.

    They never did it so openly before.

    So, that means that they are getting tough with Pakistan?

    Wrong.

    It is to build up an excuse to demand operating bases in NWFP and FATA so that they can take on the Uighur rebels!

    Even that is wrong.

    They are wanting to plonk themselves between the US in Afghanistan and Pakistan so that Pakistan can breathe since the US will not then use Drones or carry out cross border raids. This will endear them to the Pakistani population.

    Then they will carry out movement into Afghanistan once the US leaves so that their hold around the area become firm and their routes into Iran and its ports including Chahbahar (constructed by India) becomes a reality. And because of that they are supporting Iran against the US at all international forums.

     
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    Note: Very noble intentions of the Chinese.

    But they will build where it helps her to further her hegemonic aims.

    The remainder is to throw the world off the scent!
     
  10. I wish the * wiggers* around here would be put on a list. They befoul the whole place with their pasty skin, bad rapping, stupid pants, and faux "gang" signs. ***** the lot of em

    * -Can I say that?!
     
  11. Surely the Chinese can't do any worse than the US? China is going to act in it's own self interest,which is no different to any other country. Is China the malignant force we all assume it to be?
     
  12. The Chinese will just do what they always do.

    Flood the area with Han Chinese immigrant workers and rely on the local populations ethnic culture being eclipsed within a few generations as they have tried to do in Tibet.

    If you can't burn them out breed them out, one child policy not withstanding they turn a blind eye when it suits them and they can flood a province with enough Han Chinese that even couples just having one child each will swamp the local culture in no time at all, take over the economy, make the locals a minority underclass. I had a job interview recently for a not very good job that involved group discussions about yourself, one of the chaps was a Chinese "student" who bored us at length about his previous employment running a company running Himalyan expeditions for tourists in Tibet, personally I wanted to slap the racist smug over priveleged twat trying to infiltrate british society as a cover for who ever his real masters are in Beijing as he was too tall, too well fed and spoke far more English than a simple Chinese student should do but I bit my tongue and smiled politely.

    The rioting in Tibet indicates racial tension as the original ethnic group feels threatened, muslim communites such as the Uyghurs, when pushed and feeling the cultural contamination of outside influences will turn to the bomb and the bullet.
     
  13. Spy left out in the cold - National - smh.com.au

    A thousand spooks in Australia alone? Worries me, mate.
     
  14. Rayc

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    To add to what Buzz had said.


    One should read An EthnohistoricalDictionary of China
    JAMES S. OLSON
    GREENWOOD PRESS

    China’s topography has historically encouraged regional separatism, but Han culturalism provided unity for the Chinese. Han Chinese culturalism arose to distinguish between the culture of the Han, or inner people (nei ren) and the ‘barbarians’, the outer people (wei ren), Chinese social institution and feelings of cultural and aesthetic superiority have provided reassurance for the Han Chinese in the face of barbarian penetration and conquest.

    The concept of Han culture began with the Shang dynasty, 1750 -1040 BC, whose political centre was located north of the Yellow River. The Shang provided China’s first written history as well as the assertion of central cultural superiority over the surrounding people by designating as barbarians everyone who did not yet acknowledge the central government supremacy. The Chinese distinguished between ‘raw barbarians’ (shengfan) or the unassimilated people and the ‘cooked barbarians’ (shufan) or assimilated taxpayers who enjoyed the fruits of Chinese culture. For example, Han Chinese officials separated the ‘cooked’ Li of the coast of Hainan, who enjoyed the benefits of Chinese civilisation, from the wild ‘uncooked’ Li of the central forests, far from the influences of Han culture.


    Barbarians were given generic names in the Chinese classics and histories: the Yi barbarians to the east, the Man to the South, the Rong to the west and Di to the north (when westerners arrived by sea, they were officially designated until the late 19th century as Yi). Until the 1930s, the names of outgroups (wai ren) were commonly written with an animal radical: the Di, the northern tribe, were linked to the Dog; the Man and the Min of the south were characterised with reptiles; the Qiang was written with a sheep radical. This reflected the Han Chinese conviction that civilisation and culture were linked with humanity; alien groups living outside the pale of Chinese society were regarded as inhuman savages. To be labelled a barbarian was a cultural rather than racial distinction.

    That the custom of sharply distinguishing went along with calling China the Middle Kingdom (zhong guo), , which began by ruling the Central Plain (zhongyang) in North China. Rather than using outright military conquest of outsiders, the theory of ‘using the Chinese ways to transform the barbarians’ (yongxiabianyi) was promulgated. By Chinese cultural absorption or racial integration through intermarriage, a barbarian could become Han Chinese (hanhua). To be counted within China, groups accepted the rituals and cosmology that gave the Han dynastic state the Mandate of Heaven to rule over mankind. Non acceptance of this politicised culture left one outside of Zhongguo or China

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