Child Protecton - a career to stay well away from!

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  1. A reporter for the Channel 4 ‘Despatches’ programme investigates allegations that child protection procedures in the United Kingdom continue to be inadequate. Working undercover in Surry County Council Social Services Departments the report reveals a lack of resources, inadequate staff support and training, high workloads, poor morale and overwhelming amounts of red tape and 'box-ticking', reducing the time that social workers can spend helping children.

    One wonders whether Surrey County Council would have sought an injunction to prevent the broadcast if Channel 4 had allowed them to preview the programme beforehand. Given that the filming was carried out prior to the general election, one can only speculate on how much worse the position will become when Local Authorities have to find financial savings.

    The programme was broadcast nationally on 7 June 2010 and is currently available to watch on the 'More 4' website.

    Little wonder that some judges in the family courts have lost faith in Local Authority Social Workers. The whole system of child protection in the United Kingdom, one of the world's richest nations, would not be out of place in a Banana Republic!

    See, in similar vein, Winston Smith's blog Working with the Underclass which won the 2010 George Orwell award.
  2. Ah, But at least we have 'small government' and less of a burden on the taxpayer. Isn't that what matters, after all?
  3. Yeah, 'coz it's a party political matter and not one of disgraceful governance by all incumbents.

    No wonder this country's going down the shitter when all we can think to do is point at our least favourite bunch of shysters and shout 'Your fault'.
  4. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Astonishing! Trying to pin failures in Local Council services on the new Government. It's LABOUR that instituted the regime of box-ticking and target-setting - I've seen what it's done to the NHS, despite a firehose of money being poured onto it.

    I wonder what the situation is in other Counties, given that surrey probably doesn't have a massive problem in comparison to many others?
  5. Child protection in most countries in's criminal. Poor funding, horrendous case loads, far too much red tape, and lack of secure accommodation for crisis cases, and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

    I haven't seen the programme, but judging by the thread there seems to be the usual Tory/Labour bun fight going on! Child abuse will continue regardless of the party is in power. Quite frankly, you could throw as much money as you like at this and still have a problem. The core issue that needs to be addressed are the so called adults who have access to these kids. In my experience the courts will only intervene in the most extreme cases, whereas early intervention in the majority of cases is the only valid course of action. After all, who is society protecting here? Surely it must be the child.
  6. Not to say that there are NO differences, but I would question how different the child protection situation really is in Scotland, where local government, health and justice are all devolved matters and where the devolved government has been since 2007 in the hands of a minority SNP administration and was previously run by a Labour-Lib Dem coalition.
  7. Child protection matters are run by local authorities. For example in London, it would be the relevant London Borough. In Surrey, I assume it's Surrey County Council although it could also be one of the town Councils such as Guildford, Aldershot or Woking etc. Although child protection is a statutory duty for the local Authority, they pretty much set their own allocation of funds, staffing, operational policies and working practices although of course, there are guidlelines and other conventions that they follow. Some of these are set by Central Government, some by professional bodies and then of course there are peer working groups that disseminate information between themselves.

    The bottom line is though, that if a child protection department is not doing what it should be doing, i.e. properly protecting children, the buck must stop with the managers running the department and the elected members who set the policies for the department. They run the show and they have the responibility for child protection in their area.

    Central Government set's very stringent rules for child protection and there is an inspection process for child protection departments that takes place every so often. Sadly though, as the occasional tragety of a child's death shows us, there can be problems.

    I personally welcome whistle blowing programs because they do help to try and keep people on their toes and where problems are found through them, immediate remedial steps can be put in place to fix problems.
  8. I felt a degree of sympathy for the social workers on the undercover investigation. Massive workloads, red tape, a culture of arse covering; that's only scratching the surface. Dealing with child protection issues on an almost daily basis as I do, it is an absolute minefield, both practically and politically.

    The staff on the prog appeared to be doing their best with minimal resources and a total lack of support from management. I would not do their job for all the tea in China. Being a copper, I am no fan of social workers, ut they have my sympathies on this one. Child protection in this country , to use common parlance, is not a 'good place to be'
  9. I don't think Scotland can claim to be any better or worse in this respect. There have been a number of cases in recent years where inadequate f*ckwit parents have killed their child and indeed, in the last week, a mother was jailed for dipping her baby's dummy in methadone to "soothe" the child (nearly killing it) and a father was aquitted after sticking a baby wipe up his baby son's rectum to save him having to change the child's nappy so often. In so doing, he ruptured the boy's bowel. Watch BBC Scotland's "The Scheme" to see the type of people we're talking about here.

    Personally, I wouldn't do a child protection officer's job for all the tea in China. If they take a child into care, they're Nazi child snatchers (copyright Daily Mail), if they leave the child in the home and it is injured or killed, they're uncaring, incompetent buffoons (copyright Daily Mail).

    The fact is that they're relying on the most unreliable people in our society to look after their kids in an acceptable manner. These are people who let their dogs shit in their houses, who wouldn't know how to boil an egg, wash their clothes, have major issues with alcohol and drugs, have no concept of personal responsibility or respect for any authority. And they exist in their thousands in England, Scotland, Wales and NI.
  10. think I'd last a morning in child protection
    where are you going with that pick helm and nail gun? :twisted:
  11. "Child protection matters are run by local authorities."

    Except of course where the outrage is potentially damaging to the government of the day, remember the furore of Ed Balls (Secretary for Children, Schools and Families) requesting that Sharon Shoesmith be dismissed?
  12. About 3 hours longer then me :D
  13. On the other hand,you could get to meet people who's ideas about child rearing are in sharp contrast to your own.And thus offer an alternate viewpoint.