chest riigs

#6
regular osprey is crap and molle chest rigs are useful. not sure about the new osprey though but still its still useful to be able to wear body armour without the additional weight of mags constantly on you. just gives added flexibility
 
#7
right does the afghan issue kit include a chest rig because im currently interested in getting one if its not issued
No it does not.

Do not waste your money. Any kind of rig over Osprey is bulky to the point of useless and people will laugh at you. Take webbing and a Respirator haversack if your a LMG gunner, otherwise just attach the pouches you get with your issue combat vest to your Osprey. Do not take the vest itself, it is useless and redundant when worn with Osprey.

The only pouches you need on your Osprey are ammunition, a grenade pouch and your Med pouch. Possibly an organizer with your notepad/pens and if your a commander then an organizer pouch for your maps/etc. Anything more than this will also get you laughed at.
 
#8
I have heard the school of thought that putting extra shrapnel on your chest is a good recipe for losing one's nose. It was from an infanteer who had been out there. I can see his point
 
#9
True EX_STAB, The days of attaching tonnes of crap to your osprey are well gone due to secondary explosions/injuries caused by the attachments on osprey - a maglite travelling towards you head at 100's of mph whilst being blown up has been known to spoil ones chances of survival.
Likewise the rubber that people put around their helmets to look 'ally' - has been known to melt onto a soldiers face if they are unlucky enough to be near a blast.
 
#10
True EX_STAB, The days of attaching tonnes of crap to your osprey are well gone due to secondary explosions/injuries caused by the attachments on osprey - a maglite travelling towards you head at 100's of mph whilst being blown up has been known to spoil ones chances of survival.
Likewise the rubber that people put around their helmets to look 'ally' - has been known to melt onto a soldiers face if they are unlucky enough to be near a blast.
What a total bag of bollocks that was. Methink's if your close enough to have the rubber band round your helmet melt then your going to have bigger issues to worry about.

Anyway the new ally is to tape the rim of the Mk7 up with green/sand sniper tape!!
 
#11
No it does not.

Do not waste your money. Any kind of rig over Osprey is bulky to the point of useless and people will laugh at you. Take webbing and a Respirator haversack if your a LMG gunner, otherwise just attach the pouches you get with your issue combat vest to your Osprey. Do not take the vest itself, it is useless and redundant when worn with Osprey.

The only pouches you need on your Osprey are ammunition, a grenade pouch and your Med pouch. Possibly an organizer with your notepad/pens and if your a commander then an organizer pouch for your maps/etc. Anything more than this will also get you laughed at.
What do you think of the idea of wearing a belt rig and having next to nothing on the actual armour? I've seen it suggested by a serious commentator on here before?
 
#13
What do you think of the idea of wearing a belt rig and having next to nothing on the actual armour? I've seen it suggested by a serious commentator on here before?
It depends on the individual. I would suggest for LMG gunners, belt rig is the way forward with nothing on the Osprey apart from a med pouch and maybe a chest organiser. As an LMG gunner I found the most useful setup was belt rig with a Respirator haversack holding all my ammunition in one big long belt. I'd keep a seperate 100 round box on the gun and when contacted, after firing off those 100 rounds I would then just load the massive belt onto the gun from the haversack. When the contact ended I'd snap the belt leaving about 50-100 rounds on the gun and stuff the rest back into the haversack and carry on.

If your a rifleman or some variation of, I'd suggest not bothering with the belt kit and keeping it to magazine pouches, grenade pouch, med pouch and possibly an organiser if your one of those commander types. Absolutely everything else can be kept in your daysack or ECM bag, though man bags are pretty useful.

People have a tendency to overcomplicate it for themselves. You don't need all manner of kit dripping off your Osprey or person. If you can't shoot it, eat it or drink it and it's not essential to the mission or patrol leave it.
 
#14
regular osprey is crap and molle chest rigs are useful. not sure about the new osprey though but still its still useful to be able to wear body armour without the additional weight of mags constantly on you. just gives added flexibility
Common sense would suggest that if you had experienced Osprey being crap, you'd have experienced what it comes with? Seems logical, that's all.
 
#15
With the extra "hunchfront" bulk of the Velcro cummerbund and Side Release Buckles a normal width chest rig also pulls the cross straps into the back of your neck pinching it.
The minimum width to stop this is 30" or twenty PALS columns.
As Mr Ex Stab stated there are times when you might want armour protection without all the gubbins attached to it.
I agree. The issue "MOLLE OPS Vest is 'orrible. It's a step in the right direction though.
 
#16
ok so chest rig is out the window then. its hard to think ahead. you might get osprey assault you might get regular osprey. you might get an ACOG, you might not. you might get kit that fits you, you might not. its so awesomely planned isnt it. farce in the dictionary should have a picture of the army logo. And the whole association of the army and good planning deserves to be stripped from them. getting the most of your kit days before deploying is a joke. im sure the general public maybe the sun newspaper would love to know about it.
 
#17
It depends on the individual. I would suggest for LMG gunners, belt rig is the way forward with nothing on the Osprey apart from a med pouch and maybe a chest organiser. As an LMG gunner I found the most useful setup was belt rig with a Respirator haversack holding all my ammunition in one big long belt. I'd keep a seperate 100 round box on the gun and when contacted, after firing off those 100 rounds I would then just load the massive belt onto the gun from the haversack. When the contact ended I'd snap the belt leaving about 50-100 rounds on the gun and stuff the rest back into the haversack and carry on.

If your a rifleman or some variation of, I'd suggest not bothering with the belt kit and keeping it to magazine pouches, grenade pouch, med pouch and possibly an organiser if your one of those commander types. Absolutely everything else can be kept in your daysack or ECM bag, though man bags are pretty useful.

People have a tendency to overcomplicate it for themselves. You don't need all manner of kit dripping off your Osprey or person. If you can't shoot it, eat it or drink it and it's not essential to the mission or patrol leave it.
Interesting, thanks. I was thinking for the rifleman role of a belt with just ammunition pouches, grenade pouch and water rather than a full "belt kit" as used in UK. My interest in this was that it would distribute at least some of the weight on the hips rather than it all being on the shoulders. Of course we never get osprey t experiment with but I suppose that is the same for everybody. Heaven forfend that we would train with the kit we're intended to use!
 
#18
I always found opening and closing belt kit pouches under osprey a lick out. A couple of ammo pouches, med pouch, grenade pouch on the osprey is all I need.Everything else is in the day sack.
 
#19
That's cos you ain't usin the right belt n pouches!
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#20
ok so chest rig is out the window then. its hard to think ahead. you might get osprey assault you might get regular osprey. you might get an ACOG, you might not. you might get kit that fits you, you might not. its so awesomely planned isnt it. farce in the dictionary should have a picture of the army logo. And the whole association of the army and good planning deserves to be stripped from them. getting the most of your kit days before deploying is a joke. im sure the general public maybe the sun newspaper would love to know about it.
I saw no one wear chest rig on H11. Ammo on the front (in Molle type pouches) and couple of pouches on sides and thats that (thats what i did). Some wore belt kit with OPSREY, some didnt. Each to their own. As for ACOG, if you get it great but no need to plan for it (?). Gren Guards got it on RSOI, actually on the range package, so talk about last min! A lot of this planning, or lack of, can be addressed at the Unit QM's and not the system. Not saying its the case with your Unit, but ours was on the ball and we had ample kit avail, way before deployment.
 

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