Cheney ordered CIA to hide plan

#1
'Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney gave direct orders to the CIA to conceal an intelligence programme from Congress, US media reports say.'

That's strange, don't the CIA usually tell everyone what they're up to? :p

Panette has said to have stopped it now though... perhaps it was missuse of money/resources? Or a secret crack-whore project for Cheney and his friends?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146466.stm
 
#2
FNUSNU said:
'Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney gave direct orders to the CIA to conceal an intelligence programme from Congress, US media reports say.'

That's strange, don't the CIA usually tell everyone what they're up to? :p

Panette has said to have stopped it now though... perhaps it was missuse of money/resources? Or a secret crack-whore project for Cheney and his friends?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146466.stm
I guess that would be this one.
Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.

"Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...

"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.

"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.

"It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.

"In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.

"I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’

"But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”
 
#6
Closer than many realise, part of the organisation is located in a joint UK / US unit close to a hilltop Caravan Park, somewhere in the East of England. It is known only to its members as "The Inactivity"
 
#7
I feel sorry for the special forces guys who were carrying out orders, without thinking whether they were lawful.

They were the brightest and the best apparently - they just couldn't work out what would happen when there was a change of administration!
 
#9
Bound_Apprentice said:
I feel sorry for the special forces guys who were carrying out orders, without thinking whether they were lawful.
They were the brightest and the best apparently - they just couldn't work out what would happen when there was a change of administration!
i think the Waffen SS said much the same thing on their forum back in 1946 :)
 
#10
I don't want to pee on anyones fire, but the JSOC is subordinate to the USSOCOM and is answerable to a whole host of people, including Congress. Gen McChrystal was the previous head of JSOC and although it is a secretive organistation, it is not out of the Bourne Trilogy...

The media have stated that in 2009 JSOC was commanded by a V. Admiral rank who did not put a stop to the JSOC but actually paused operations in Afghanistan because they were inadvertantly killing civillians. Operations have reportedly resumed.
 
#11
Howayman said:
I don't want to pee on anyones fire, but the JSOC is subordinate to the USSOCOM and is answerable to a whole host of people, including Congress. Gen McChrystal was the previous head of JSOC and although it is a secretive organistation, it is not out of the Bourne Trilogy...

The media have stated that in 2009 JSOC was commanded by a V. Admiral rank who did not put a stop to the JSOC but actually paused operations in Afghanistan because they were inadvertantly killing civillians. Operations have reportedly resumed.
Well said,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command

Hardly a shaddowy organisation with no accountability. That article is talking rubbish
 
#12
FNUSNU said:
'Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney gave direct orders to the CIA to conceal an intelligence programme from Congress, US media reports say.'
That's strange, don't the CIA usually tell everyone what they're up to? :p

Panette has said to have stopped it now though... perhaps it was missuse of money/resources? Or a secret crack-whore project for Cheney and his friends?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146466.stm
Nor do ICA !
 

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