Check Your Photocard Driving Licence-could cost a £1k Fine

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Unwitting motorists face £1,000 fines as thousands of photocard driving licences expire

By Ray Massey
Last updated at 1:05 AM on 12th September 2008

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Thousands of motorists risk being fined up to £1,000 because they are unwittingly driving without a valid licence.

They have failed to spot that their photocard licence automatically expires after ten years and has to be renewed.


Motoring organisations said most drivers believed, wrongly, that their new-style licence was for life and blamed the Government for the fiasco.

Enlarge A mock-up driving licence from 1998 when the photocards were launched shows the imminent expiry date as item '4b'

They said officials had failed to publicise the fact that photocard licences - unlike the old paper ones - expire after a set period and must be renewed.

Drivers have to pay £17.50 to renew their card,which will earn the Treasury an estimated £437million over 25 years.


The first batch of ten-year photo licences was issued in July 1998, and the confusion has come to light as they start to expire.



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DVLA figures reveal that while 16,136 expired this summer, so far only 11,566 drivers have renewed, leaving 4,570 outstanding.


With another 300,000 photocard licences due to expire over the coming year, the number of invalid licences could soar. A total of 25million have been issued.

At the heart of the confusion is the small print on the credit card-size photo licence. Just below the driver's name is a numbered series of dates and details.

Enlarge 4b: The small print on the back of the driving licence is easy to miss.

Number '4b' features a date in tiny writing but the significance is explained only if the driver turns over the card and reads the key on the back which states that '4b' means 'licence valid to'.

Even more confusingly, a table on the rear of the card sets out how long the driver is registered to hold a licence - that is until their 70th birthday.

Motorists who fail to renew their licences in time are allowed to continue driving but the DVLA says they could be charged with 'failing to surrender their licence', an offence carrying a £1,000 fine.

The DVLA said yesterday that the date of expiry was carried on the new-style licences, but was unable to say whether motorists were told the licences would expire when they were first issued.

A spokesman said: 'It is important that photocards are updated every ten years to ensure the police and other enforcement agencies can identify whether a driving licence is being used fraudulently.'

The agency is sending reminders to drivers whose photocard is due to expire, and no one has so far been charged with failing to surrender their licence.

The Association of British Insurers and the Department for Transport said that insurance cover was not affected if drivers failed to update their photocard.
 
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Well, just checked mine and it expires 09-09-09. My licence was re-issued last year due to a change of address so should have another 9 years to go... Guess it's a good money making exercise then.
 
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It must be a photo thing - like updating a passport.

I need to do a change of address, but have also mislaid (it's in a safe place!) the paper segment, so need a new one. I bet they don't ask for a photo, so it will then need renewing again!

tsk tsk tsk
 

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Cow said:
Well, just checked mine and it expires 09-09-09. My licence was re-issued last year due to a change of address so should have another 9 years to go... Guess it's a good money making exercise then.
Must be an arbitrary thing then. I too sent mine off for an address change last year but mine shows as valid until 2011.

Some pretty dodgy lack of consistency there.
 
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Just having a look on the DVLA website, it seems that:

The expiry isn't for the driving licence, but for the photograph.

So if you had your licence renewed for a change of address/lost/points removal....this DOES NOT change the date your licence needs renewing for the photo.

So you always need to pay the charge for this whetehr your licence has been re-issued 5 times in the last 10 years or not.

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I'm trying to find out information from the DVLA/Direct.gov.uk about replacing an expired licence. I cannot find anything on their websites about replacing a licence due to expiring after 10 years. This is from the Direct.gov.uk about costs:
Licence Costs

It doesn't mention it, however, you can 'renew the photo' for a cost of £17.50

Can anyone find any documents refering to replacing an expired licence?

Edit: ^ You beat me!
 
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Must be an arbitrary thing then. I too sent mine off for an address change last year but mine shows as valid until 2011.

Some pretty dodgy lack of consistency there.
When was your licence valid from?
 

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Not sure previously: It now says 4a 06-11-07 (date of renewal) so I suspect it must have been 2001 and as pointed out by Sympathetic_Reaction and yourself, it didn't renew when I sent it in.

Ho hum. Should have stuck with my battered old paper one.

Edit to add: But it's only £17.50 in three years time so I'm not that outraged :D
 
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http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf40.pdf details these requirements. It also says that DVLA will send you a reminder to this effect to the last registered address for your card. The form doesn't have a link to it that I could find, I had to type it into the address bar.

Did the people who've failed to update their licences recieve reminders and fail to update them or has the DVLA not sent out reminders?

Is the Daily Mail trying to make up news... Clarification from their sources would be nice: Did the people who have/haven't updated their licences when they're due to expire recieved 1. Information detailing the fact that they expire after 10 years (even though it is on the card) 2. Did they recieve renewal notices?
 
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Brand spanking new just arrived on my doormat this morning. I look lush and good for 10 years :D
 

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Mine due for an update in 2013 - which will be ten years on from when I added my bike licence to it, even though I've renewed it twice since then to change address, but the photo is still the one I got with my first photo card in 98 or 99. (My MOD 90 was issued in 1994 so all my photo ID show a young sprog of a thing compared to the middle aged fellah who presents himself)
 

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