Changing Job Roles At Phase 1

colbo123

Swinger
Hey,

I'm knew to this so hope I am posting correctly etc...

I currently have a conditional offer to join the British Army after receiving a B grade on selection last month. My first job choice was the Intelligence Corps but I missed out because I did not get a C grade at GSCE in maths (I got a D), I do on the other hand have 8 other GCSE's at grade C and 4 AS levels and 3 A levels but because I have a D in maths I went for my 2nd choice, to join the Royal Artillery.

I have been told that during phase 1 training we undergo key skills in maths and English?

If this is the case and I pass my maths key skills at level 2 I would technically have all the qualifications I need to join the Intelligence Corps... So could I then change back to my first job choice?

My current plan is to join the Royal Artillery as an Unmanned Aircraft Operator (2nd job choice) and specialise in imagery analysis and then transfer into the Intelligence Corps once I had gained my qualifications within the army.
Does anyone have any experience of transferring into the Intel Corps or of transferring at all?

Thanks
 
It's very hard to change roles. Really very hard, and to be honest, not all that fair - there's other people who want to join up to do that job in the Royal Artillery as a career, not as a stepping stone to somewhere else in the army.

As far as I'm aware, you no longer choose your job in the Artillery either, you go to Phase 2 and they'll tell you what you're gonna be doing to a certain extent. Not sure if this is still the case, but could hamper your plans from the off.

You do complete key skills, but you do it during Phase 2 and at a working unit, not during basic.

Your best bet is to go off and get the relevant quals in civvy street and then rejoin with the Int Corps being your main choice and do it that way. It'll be quicker in the long run, especially seeing as key skills doesn't take long at all, and there's no guarantee of you ever making it into the Int Corps if you try and take the in-service route.
 

colbo123

Swinger
I see, that's cleared a lot up for me so thanks!

I have conditional offer at the minute for January 2014.. I have been waiting a few months now and have been working very hard on fitness and I was really looking forward to getting started!

I'm going to look into getting my maths qualification in civvy street then change my job role!

Is it a simple case of phoning my candidate support manager and changing my job roles? I passed everything at selection for the Intel Corps so is it a straight swap and training date change?

Thanks
 
I see, that's cleared a lot up for me so thanks!

I have conditional offer at the minute for January 2014.. I have been waiting a few months now and have been working very hard on fitness and I was really looking forward to getting started!

I'm going to look into getting my maths qualification in civvy street then change my job role!

Is it a simple case of phoning my candidate support manager and changing my job roles? I passed everything at selection for the Intel Corps so is it a straight swap and training date change?

Thanks
Yeah I'm not sure the exact procedure, but I'm sure if you explain Int Corps is what you really wanna do and that you're gonna scurry off and get key skills done (which can be done really quick these days) they'll tell you what the deal is. Int Corps requires a separate selection be taken, so you'll have to do that too - have a search to see what it entails, loads of people have asked questions about it on here.

If you get your quals and pass the selection (not ADSC, the Int Corps one) you'll be on your way to Int Corps fun fun fun. Also a good tip for passing Int Corps selection would be to not call it the Intel Corps, because they'll put you on a plane to Langley, Virginia, and you'll be joining nuffffiiinkkkkk.

Anyways good luck.
 

Hilts

Old-Salt
My understanding of the Intelligence corps is it's particularly hard to get into because the intakes are smaller and less frequent, due to this the people they choose to take on are the cream of the crop. Not having a C grade a GCSE is clearly what's holding you back but I think you should consider your grade from selection, from what I've read if you haven't got an A grade your chances of getting into the Intelligence corps are slim and that's with the right qualifications.
 

colbo123

Swinger
Thanks for your replies!

I have spoke to my candidate support manager and recruiter this morning and like you said the course is particularly difficult to get onto and with my current grades it is probably not the best role for me currently.
I have decided that I am going to join the RA in Jan, it was my second choice but I really cannot wait to get started!

Thanks for your advice!
 
Hey wondering if anyone could help me. I've been waiting to join the RA now for 6 months but I understand there is a long waiting list and cause I got a grade C I'm looking at at least another year. My two years is up since selection in March 2014 so I'll have to to ADSC in March again. I've heard there is a training course in November but it's for the RLC and I was thinking if I did that but in basic told them I want to change job roles to the RA. just wanted to know if that can happen? Thanks
 

Joker62

ADC
Book Reviewer
Hey wondering if anyone could help me. I've been waiting to join the RA now for 6 months but I understand there is a long waiting list and cause I got a grade C I'm looking at at least another year. My two years is up since selection in March 2014 so I'll have to to ADSC in March again. I've heard there is a training course in November but it's for the RLC and I was thinking if I did that but in basic told them I want to change job roles to the RA. just wanted to know if that can happen? Thanks
Read the first paragraph on post#4, it's a pretty jack idea seeing as you deprive someone else of their chance to get in just because you can't wait!
 
Read the first paragraph on post#4, it's a pretty jack idea seeing as you deprive someone else of their chance to get in just because you can't wait!
I'm gonna have to wait more than a year I'm already in I'm a reservist done the training but there putting me back in for regs training so it's unfair there keeping me waiting I shouldn't really have to do the 14 weeks basic again but I can't wait another year I literally can't with my civi life and that i really need to start asap so I will try and do anything to get myself sorted sounds a bit out of order but I need this.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
The harsh reality is that with a C grade you are likely to face a wait for many job roles. If RA aren't rushing you through it is because they have enough higher scoring applicants to meet their needs.

You need to retake selection and score better to improve your chances of RA or accept that you might need to reconsider your job choices.

The other alternative is to see what FTRS opportunities there might be for you, rather than leaving the reserve to join regular.
 

sup rec

LE
Book Reviewer
I'm gonna have to wait more than a year I'm already in I'm a reservist done the training but there putting me back in for regs training so it's unfair there keeping me waiting I shouldn't really have to do the 14 weeks basic again but I can't wait another year I literally can't with my civi life and that i really need to start asap so I will try and do anything to get myself sorted sounds a bit out of order but I need this.
If you are a reservist and still only managed a C at selection then unlucky. If you weren't a reservist when you last went to selection, then you should do better this time, now you know what is coming.

It is not unfair they are keeping you waiting - you basically haven't scored high enough and all those that score more than you at selection will rightly get in before you. Why shouldn't you have to do 14 weeks training. As it stands you haven't done 14 weeks continuous training so far. Unless you have recently been on Ops then the 14 weeks is standard.

If you haven't even been back to selection yet how do you know you will have to wait a year?
 
I'm gonna have to wait more than a year I'm already in I'm a reservist done the training but there putting me back in for regs training so it's unfair there keeping me waiting I shouldn't really have to do the 14 weeks basic again but I can't wait another year I literally can't with my civi life and that i really need to start asap so I will try and do anything to get myself sorted sounds a bit out of order but I need this.

Wow, I'd,love to have you in my Section, had a reservist in my last intake who had about as much backbone and robustness as a jelly baby.

Edited to add: had another lad in my intake who deployed as a Rifleman on H11 who had to complete 14 weeks Basic so suck it up Princess.
 
If you are a reservist and still only managed a C at selection then unlucky. If you weren't a reservist when you last went to selection, then you should do better this time, now you know what is coming.

It is not unfair they are keeping you waiting - you basically haven't scored high enough and all those that score more than you at selection will rightly get in before you. Why shouldn't you have to do 14 weeks training. As it stands you haven't done 14 weeks continuous training so far. Unless you have recently been on Ops then the 14 weeks is standard.

If you haven't even been back to selection yet how do you know you will have to wait a year?
I don't mind doing the 14 weeks I just wanna know when it will be Im gonna sort it out with the NRC and try and get on a selection asap to get an A then hopefull I'll get into the RA.
 
Wow, I'd,love to have you in my Section, had a reservist in my last intake who had about as much backbone and robustness as a jelly baby.

Edited to add: had another lad in my intake who deployed as a Rifleman on H11 who had to complete 14 weeks Basic so suck it up Princess.
Like I said I don't mind doing the 14 weeks I'm eager to get in!
 

sup rec

LE
Book Reviewer
I don't mind doing the 14 weeks I just wanna know when it will be Im gonna sort it out with the NRC and try and get on a selection asap to get an A then hopefull I'll get into the RA.
Your previous statement of:

there putting me back in for regs training so it's unfair there keeping me waiting I shouldn't really have to do the 14 weeks basic again
tends to argue the point of not minding doing phase 1. Your score within the grade you get will dictate how far up you are on the national data base for your chosen first trade. If there are 50 slots for Ph1 and your score is the 51st then you aren't going. Remember that everyone that goes to SC after you, with the same 1st job choice, will go above you if their score is better than yours. that also works for you if you score higher than people that have already been.

You will not know when you might start Ph1 until you have been to SC so there is nothing that you can sort out with the NRC, it is all down to YOU. The best that the NRC will be able to do is tell you when the RA intakes are.
 

Gss

Crow
Hi I passed the army selection and I got a phonecall with my phase 1 start dates but also an email with a conditional offer but doesn't explain the conditions can you help me please thanks
 
Hi I passed the army selection and I got a phonecall with my phase 1 start dates but also an email with a conditional offer but doesn't explain the conditions can you help me please thanks
You have to pass all the pre employments checks (PEC) including medical docs, Disclosure Scotland (criminal convictions etc.....as soon as you get any correspondence from the NRC make sure you sort it straight away as any delays etc could take your offer away.
 

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