Changes to TA recruit training

#1
I hear huge changes are afoot - all centralised, 6 weekends in 3 months, back squadded if you cant make a weekend.

Is this all rumours or can someone out there in arrseland enlighten us (and update the wiki!)
 
#2
as far as we are awareits going back to the old style 4 weekends then a 2 week cmsr and thats all. makes more sense as recruits now have more time to get their fittness up to scratch.
 
#4
1, Paperwork, selection and kit issue carried out by each Unit (Already under review and may go to RTC’s)
2, Two weeks basic training at an ATR
3, Four to six weekends (dependent on type of unit) with a Regional Training Centre
4, Trade training ?????? (Infantry, Armour, Driver etc)

Trade trained TA Private Soldier produced after 9-18 Months or at least that’s what Land are trying to put on the tin. :?
 
#5
As of October the new CMSR (TA) will follow this route.

TAFS 1 (at unit level)

TAFS 2 and either 4 or 7 weekend at local RTC depending on the status of the recruit i.e. OAAS or INf respectively

Followed by either a two week CMSR or CIC(TA), again capbadge dependant
 
#7
ViciousCircle said:
spot on sad sacks

Officers =

paperwork and medical

selection weekend at unit

pre-commission course

commission board

PQO 1A = 2 weeks

PQO2A = 2 weeks

or a four weeker at sandhurst ?
That's what I am doing, except I went from medical to pre-commissioning course. Didn't seem to have a selection weekend...

FF.
 
#8
Interview

medical

paperwork

selection(must pass 1.5 miles in under 14 minutes)

Attestation

TAFS1a

TAFS1b

4 or 7 GAPS (must be done in order, or back squadded)

2 weeks CMS(R)

= Trained Soldier!

trade
 
#9
I tell you what guys whoever is giving you this info they better get CDTd. There is nothing been 100% decided and it will be up to the Bde Commds what they do within the guidelines from CRF. Run timings B******S, TA Selection is spot on but not run at units either run at ASDCs or at RTC's.
Ask me more I am involved.
 
#10
fifesbest said:
I tell you what guys whoever is giving you this info they better get CDTd. There is nothing been 100% decided and it will be up to the Bde Commds what they do within the guidelines from CRF. Run timings B******S, TA Selection is spot on but not run at units either run at ASDCs or at RTC's.
Ask me more I am involved.
The bit in bold sounds *really* good, but I have no idea what it means.
 
#12
d12gnr said:
as far as we are awareits going back to the old style 4 weekends then a 2 week cmsr and thats all. makes more sense as recruits now have more time to get their fittness up to scratch.
Don't know if it's 'cap badge related' but ours sounds a whole lot more complex than that. There is even the opportunity for the sprogs to attend a 2 week course that will take account of all the pre-CMSR training, i.e. all the 1A1 - 1B1 training.

It looks lovely and colourful on the nice A3 chart but I thinkit has been proposed by someone who has slipped through the CDT programme......at least once! :lol:
 
#13
What I'm currently going through is:

Phase 1A (2 weekends RTC)
Phase 1B (4 weekends RTC)
Phase 1C (2 week CMSR)

Then on to trade training.

From what I've seen, those who are even newer are doing Phase 1A with their regiment, then going to mixed cap badge RTC for Phase 1B.
 
#14
fifesbest said:
I tell you what guys whoever is giving you this info they better get CDTd. There is nothing been 100% decided and it will be up to the Bde Commds what they do within the guidelines from CRF. Run timings B******S, TA Selection is spot on but not run at units either run at ASDCs or at RTC's.
Ask me more I am involved.
Well that is exactly how it is being done in Jockland, better CDT the whole RTC then, eh?
 
#15
fifesbest said:
I tell you what guys whoever is giving you this info they better get CDTd. There is nothing been 100% decided and it will be up to the Bde Commds what they do within the guidelines from CRF. Run timings B******S, TA Selection is spot on but not run at units either run at ASDCs or at RTC's.
Ask me more I am involved.
So, we've been doing wrong for the last five years guys, sorry.

A quick question though, who has more authority, Bde Comders, CRF or Land?

Run times, didn't I hear somthing about the RRR being done in 14 mins or under......

(memo to self)throw away the CTP given to us by land.
 
#16
devilish said:
fifesbest said:
I tell you what guys whoever is giving you this info they better get CDTd. There is nothing been 100% decided and it will be up to the Bde Commds what they do within the guidelines from CRF. Run timings B******S, TA Selection is spot on but not run at units either run at ASDCs or at RTC's.
Ask me more I am involved.
Well that is exactly how it is being done in Jockland, better CDT the whole RTC then, eh?
TAFFS 1 is run at unit in Scottyland, TAFFS 2 and weekends 1-4 (or 1-7 if infantry or PO) are at RTC. We also have Summer challenge over the summer for recruits.
 
#17
FFBox said:
Run times, didn't I hear somthing about the RRR being done in 14 mins or under......
That's what I was told at my medical, run, & attestation afternoon.

The afternoon was running late (no pun intended), and they never made me run. They just told me I'd have been required to be able to do it in under 14 minutes.

I said, "Hey, no problem, of course I can" (and I actually could!), but at the time I was heavier than a heifer on heat. They looked at me, and the unspoken conversation was that neither they nor I wanted to find out if what I said was true or not...

But the point is, yes the RRR is 14 minutes, no walking. Apparently several people were sent home for walking, although that all happened before I arrived that day.

FF.
 
#18
I just hope to god that some grey haired 'old boy in Whithall' sorts his act out and resets the recruit training process to a good balance of weekends and courses.

9 weekends is rather amusing -- classic for us is....

Recruit comes in the door, gets the recruits new person package of slides, beers and a tour etc.... the thought of 9 weekends recruit training is ok at first....but by weekend 6 they are dispondant of the process and end up deselecting themselves!!

People would argue that is a good thing but personally i would rather have them in a good state after recruits where they can then be moulded?!

Anyway, untill then...its business as normal!
 
#19
So, what would you say would be a better alternative?

I'm currently in the process of looking for a unit to join and, despite not being one of the great unwashed students, would be happiest to get my recruit training out of the way in a Summer Challenge type format of several weeks strung together.

What would the alternative be? Picking up more of the milskills "on the job"?
 

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