Thought I'd open a different topic on this rather than lose it in the Chieftain one. In 91 we were in Munster and once the 1st unpleasantness was over my troop was given 2 Mk1 Challies and a MK 3. As troop Sgt I snaffled the MK3 for myself (not sure what the difference was mind but hey-ho). My 12 year old troop leader did question this though "Sgt Stumpy, as the troop leader (sic) shouldn't I have the best tank?". I replied " well sir you have, the Challenger marks are backwards and the lower the number the better the tank. I'm only having this to stop you and Cpl Fcuknuts being inconvenienced". "Cripes Sgt Stumpy you're sooo good can I touch you?". "Not right now sir theres troopers to beast". The only visible difference you could see was a round cover on the front of the tank which the REME told me was for a dozer fitting. Has anyone used a dozer on the Challenger? As the first Regiment to get them I never saw any but have they become general issue? if so how many are issued to each regiment? Are they any good? The CV12 MUST make a difference.