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CGS:upgrading challenger and warrior.

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LE
Book Reviewer
Armoured? Why? To what purpose?
Strike Brigades? Time for the foolish idea to die a death before it dies a death on a battlefield
Air Assault? There’s the badger.... if you can’t deploy forces in real time, they’re just window dressing.

but no, the Arny seems determined at all costs, to rebuild the forces needed to refight WW3 - lots of tanks and tracked APCs - against the Russian in northern europe.
Probably because the threat is heavy armour, you nugget.

Paratroopers might be nice and fit and hard and everything but they're not bullet- or shell-proof.

...aren't you the same guy who who was whinging about Javelin dismounts being wiped out by airburst? Now you're advocating getting rid of armour and going airmobile.

Oh, and what about those terrifying Russian AD capabilities?

You change your opinion with your underpants.*




*Assuming that you're changing those at least daily.
 
Probably because the threat is heavy armour, you nugget.

Paratroopers might be nice and fit and hard and everything but they're not bullet- or shell-proof.

...aren't you the same guy who who was whinging about Javelin dismounts being wiped out by airburst? Now you're advocating getting rid of armour and going airmobile.

Oh, and what about those terrifying Russian AD capabilities?

You change your opinion with your underpants.*




*Assuming that you're changing those at least daily.
I wouldn't waste my breath, here is Photex*:

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*Although the figure for useful information is a tad overstated :)
 
Published by: James Pugh, Telford Business, on 24 November 2020.

Jobs boost as hundreds of armoured vehicles to be built in Telford under £860m contract

More than 200 armoured vehicles will be built in Telford as part of an £860 million contract which will support local jobs.

Defence firm RBSL will produce more than 260 Boxer military vehicles at its Hadley Park site as part of the subcontract awarded by Rheinmetall Landsysteme for the Ministry of Defence's infantry vehicle programme.


The company says the contract will "create and sustain" more than 200 skilled jobs in and around Telford, with the complete programme employing 1,000 people nationwide.

However it is not yet known how many of the 200 jobs will be new roles and how many will be filled by existing staff.

RBSL will also use the contract to provide work and training opportunities to more than 60 apprentices over the next five years, which is anticipated to be replicated across the UK supply chain.

The subcontract marks a significant milestone for the programme, following the £2.3 billion MIV contract awarded to ARTEC, the Rheinmetall and KMW consortium in December 2019.

The MIV programme aims to source 60 per cent, by value, of the contract from within the UK. In order to achieve this, RBSL is part of the MIV Joint Procurement Team, which has engaged with suppliers in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Proud . . .

RBSL is also making a £20m investment in its Telford site to improve infrastructure, provide state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities, and deliver some of the highest standards of training for specialist capabilities, such as welding.

Defence Minister Jeremy Quin said: “Investment in defence is an investment into British industry and this Boxer contract will create and sustain thousands of skilled jobs throughout the country over its lifetime.

"Defence contracts like this at RBSL in Telford will modernise and upgrade our armed forces whilst helping the nation build back better from the Covid-19 pandemic.”

Dr Marco Nöding, RBSL managing director, added: “RBSL’s subcontract is a great step forward after months of hard work.

Working with Rheinmetall and other partners, RBSL is bringing new skills and technologies into the business and the UK supply chain.
“I feel proud that RBSL has the opportunity to support British industry by working with UK-based suppliers – especially given the extraordinary circumstances the UK faces as a result of Covid-19.

"The next step for us is to formalise our community of suppliers and ensure the British Army receives their new vehicles manufactured to the highest standards.”

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Posted on: the "cgs-upgrading-challenger-and-warrior" thread; and, the "fres-2-the-revenge-aka-miv" thread.
 

Cynical

LE
Book Reviewer
Excellent.
All we need now is a sensible doctrine for them, a few more, a suitable vehicle for providing direct fire support and a role for 20 light role infantry bns...
 
Excellent.
All we need now is a sensible doctrine for them, a few more, a suitable vehicle for providing direct fire support and a role for 20 light role infantry bns...

Excluding those in 16 AA Bde, we could cheerfully make do with 10, of which 5 would be Protected Mobility Light Role and 5 MAN and LR Light Role, optimised for mountains and jungles.
 

NemoIII

War Hero
Excluding those in 16 AA Bde, we could cheerfully make do with 10, of which 5 would be Protected Mobility Light Role and 5 MAN and LR Light Role, optimised for mountains and jungles.

Surely not? How dare you suggest a cut to the Infantry, that can barely scrape manning levels.

Itll have to be CS and CSS to go, no ones going to be marching on Whitehall with poorly shaped berets, when 1Bn REME or 27 Regt RLC is cut.
 
Surely not? How dare you suggest a cut to the Infantry, that can barely scrape manning levels.

Itll have to be CS and CSS to go, no ones going to be marching on Whitehall with poorly shaped berets, when 1Bn REME or 27 Regt RLC is cut.

Logistics is clearly not something that the professionals have to worry about...
 
And despite the Army getting an absolute stuffing in the new spending round, the Army still pretends it doesn't need to have a very long, very hard look at itself, and dreams of vast columns of non existent panzers, sweeping majestically across the foreign plains.
 

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