Ceremonial

#3
When they have their open days at MOD Shoeburyness there's always this team who turn out with their 25 pounders which fire blanks.

Basically, they used a cut-down shell case which is further adapted to take a 12 gauge blank. The kids enjoy it, but it would also be sufficiently loud for ceremonial purposes too.

I have plenty of pictures, but can't be posted to arrse them...
 

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#4
Whose round is it?

Gettit!!

Aw, **** Off, I'll get me coat
 
#5
is this england bad form sentance fred?
My bad, that is a truely shocking sentance.

What I meant to ask was...

When firing salutes and what not on ceremonial duties, could the gunners load only the charge? Omitting the shell and thus firing, what is essentially, a blank?
 

sirbhp

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#7
When they have their open days at MOD Shoeburyness there's always this team who turn out with their 25 pounders which fire blanks.

Basically, they used a cut-down shell case which is further adapted to take a 12 gauge blank. The kids enjoy it, but it would also be sufficiently loud for ceremonial purposes too.

I have plenty of pictures, but can't be posted to arrse them...

Bum, I was going to post some photos of the shoebury gun carriage rigged out for a funeral but they were not on this hard disk . It was outside the co-op in Great Wakering .
 

sirbhp

LE
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#9
the gun landy outside the Anchor pub . gun landy.jpg

blimey i am getting the hang of this after all .
 
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#10
When firing salutes and what not on ceremonial duties, could the gunners load only the charge? Omitting the shell and thus firing, what is essentially, a blank?
The 105 light gun has a blank cartridge for saluting purposes. If you'd have taken 2 minutes to use Google, you'd have known that. Idle ****.
 
#11
Wouldn't want to tow a "Light" Gun with a Horse though and that's a big part of what KT do in ceremonial role.

25 Pdr on roof of Edinburgh castle too I reckon.

105 wouldn't just fire the cart, with no shell - too excessive to give blank effect.
 
#13
We had a 25 pdr in cadets, many decades ago. Given to us because the barrel had a slight crack, so not even safe to fire a charge with no shell.

We "fired" the thing (once a year, when the parents came to gawp at their offspring prancing about in ill-fitting berets) by inserting some electrical fuse wire into a banger, inserting that into a thunderflash, connecting a length of cable to the fuse wire, lowering the whole lot down the barrel and covering the wire in scrim. This all done "offstage", of course.

When "Fire mission one gun" was given (or whatever), one of the gun bunnies connected a 90V radio battery to the wires, the fuse wire burnt out at speed, ignited the banger and hence set off the thunderflash. Usually.
 

sirbhp

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#14
any of you from north London may recall a 25 pounder outside a pub in Alma Road ponders end up to the 2000d ish .
 
#15
We had a 25 pdr in cadets, many decades ago. Given to us because the barrel had a slight crack, so not even safe to fire a charge with no shell.

We "fired" the thing (once a year, when the parents came to gawp at their offspring prancing about in ill-fitting berets) by inserting some electrical fuse wire into a banger, inserting that into a thunderflash, connecting a length of cable to the fuse wire, lowering the whole lot down the barrel and covering the wire in scrim. This all done "offstage", of course.

When "Fire mission one gun" was given (or whatever), one of the gun bunnies connected a 90V radio battery to the wires, the fuse wire burnt out at speed, ignited the banger and hence set off the thunderflash. Usually.
Funny you should mention that...

On a bi-annual inspection I had the delight of informing a CCF (badged navy, RM and Arty, so needless to say a strong 29 bent) that there was no way in gods earth they could have a 'gun run' (navy stylee) between teh three sections consisting of 'guns' made of tyres, actual metal 'axle' (pipe about 5mm thick5 inch dia and 3ft long, a sawed of telegraph pole and some sort of purchased 'scarer' device.

It was metal, had a bolt and you secured a shotgun style cartridge in to it, pulling a string released the bolt. This was screwed on to the top of the telegraph pole 'barrel'...

Their protestations of 'we did it last year' were met with indifference by the OC CTT, Training Safety Adviser and myself (lastly).
 
#16
I know f all about arty so I'm not sure.

Just wondering is it worth maintaining the 25 pdrs? (I think you use 18 pdrs?)
18pdrs were all the rage up until 1942
they were the ones that left a few marks on the four courts.
I think I read somewhere that your defence force got 6 of them, or was that the 25lbs?
anyway you had both varieties at one time.
 
#17
Funny you should mention that...

On a bi-annual inspection I had the delight of informing a CCF (badged navy, RM and Arty, so needless to say a strong 29 bent) that there was no way in gods earth they could have a 'gun run' (navy stylee) between teh three sections consisting of 'guns' made of tyres, actual metal 'axle' (pipe about 5mm thick5 inch dia and 3ft long, a sawed of telegraph pole and some sort of purchased 'scarer' device.

It was metal, had a bolt and you secured a shotgun style cartridge in to it, pulling a string released the bolt. This was screwed on to the top of the telegraph pole 'barrel'...

Their protestations of 'we did it last year' were met with indifference by the OC CTT, Training Safety Adviser and myself (lastly).
Miserable ******.
 
#18
We had a 25 pdr in cadets, many decades ago. Given to us because the barrel had a slight crack, so not even safe to fire a charge with no shell.

We "fired" the thing (once a year, when the parents came to gawp at their offspring prancing about in ill-fitting berets) by inserting some electrical fuse wire into a banger, inserting that into a thunderflash, connecting a length of cable to the fuse wire, lowering the whole lot down the barrel and covering the wire in scrim. This all done "offstage", of course.

When "Fire mission one gun" was given (or whatever), one of the gun bunnies connected a 90V radio battery to the wires, the fuse wire burnt out at speed, ignited the banger and hence set off the thunderflash. Usually.
'Kin ell thats some radio, did it double as a death ray?
 
#20
Correct, the 18 pdrs were lent by the Brits. We only got the 25 pdr after WW2 and they were used until recently (still used in ceremonial role).
 
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