Ceremonial Duties

Discussion in 'Strategic Defence & Spending Review (SDSR)' started by Taffd, Aug 22, 2012.

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  1. In the same way that MPGS are used to fulfil the role of guard duties, is there any merit in the idea of having a similar sort of regiment to carry out ceremonial duties, thus leaving the Army to concentrate on army type stuff?
    Or should it stay part and parcel of some soldiers' roles.
  2. BuggerAll

    BuggerAll LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

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  3. Our own version of the US "Old Guard"?

    Why not?
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  4. Because then the whole Household division would look liek the Kings troop - Gong-less war dodging swines.

    Also, for those that have done it, Ceremonial duties does have a big impact on a soldiers personal admin skills, thus benefiting them when on operational duties.

    Besides, I couldn't image a civvie working the hours in Knightsbridge for less then £30,000 per year, usually 10 hours days and 7 days a week, that's not including kit cleaning for QLG / Escorts etc - That's a good 10 hours per guard / escort.
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  5. The Spams seem to manage it ok. Why would it be too difficult for us?
  6. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Been done, I think. Didn't the Czechs, or someone like that, get a load of 'resting' actors to do their ceremonial guard somewhere? If they just have to stand there (as do those in Horseguards) then it's easy enough.

    Similarly, a good few nations use conscripts for this - the guards on Makarios' tomb in Cyprus, for example, used to be (probably still are) conscripts who do just that - and are trained for nothing else. Makes sense, I suppose. And if actors were used, they would get Equity rates, and that's not a lot. It's certainly an awful lot less than a Soldier, of pretty much any rank, once you take the full costs into the equation (training, housing, pension, medical, dental, etc)/
  7. We are already at this point:

    Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now reduced to a Company for Public Duties in Scotland
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  8. I thought the whole point was that the Queen's Guard was composed of real fighting soldiers with teeth, so to speak. If you're going to have an MPGS equivalent do it then the tourist board might aswell recruit gap year students to put on a bearskin and mount the Guard.
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  9. Are the Yeomen of the Tower of London pretty much that? Dont see them carry many weapons to protect the Crown Jewels with...
  10. Don't the Canadians have something like this?

  11. Why not recruit ex members or soon to leave members of The Household Division to stay on and do it. Added to a pension might be to some people's liking, not everyone's though.
  12. Army type stuff like guarding the Royal palaces, for example?
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  13. Sounds like a good idea.
    In which case, it will never happen.
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  14. Part of the attraction to joining the Guards or Household Cav is that you get to do this kinda stuff. Lads I've met who did it said they enjoyed the fact that American tourist girls would write down their phone numbers and drop it down your wader or in your belt. The problem being that you couldn't remember what numbers belonged to the good looking ones.

    I was also told that when they made dates and went to meet them, the lasses would be gutted to find them turn up in smart civvies, and not red tunics.