CEA & moving schools

#1
Sorry if this rambles on a bit as I need some advice, has anyone had the experience of moving schools whilst claiming CEA.

Little Bustardette is at boarding school and we are claiming CEA within all the rules. The school does not seem to push her, her fitness has gone down as she isn't participating in the sports she used to do and she is well below par on certain subjects. We have found out that others who have left the school are below in the same subject.

The boy Bustard has moved school on my last draft as he isn't in the CEA system yet. His new school has said he lacks in the same subject as his sister.

We have spoken to the school and been told that everything is going well, she is doing well etc and our concerns will be addressed but nothing has happened yet.

The main concern is that she is the only boarding girl in her year and next year will be only one of 6 in the boarding school. At the rate the school is going she will be one of two the year after.

With figures like that she is not going to get the best out of boarding. I would like to move her from this school to a different one so she will be pushed academically and enjoy the experience

Has anyone had to do this before and how helpful were CEA in doing this?

Thank you for your time.
 

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#2
No experience myself, but AFF has this little gem:

CEA claimants who wish to move their child to an alternative school to resolve a specific issue and continue to claim the allowance, should still refer to JSP 752, Chapter 9, Section 1, Annex C.
Education Allowances (CEA) (SENA)

Though I note you used the word draft.
 
#3
Thanks, will have a good look through that. I bet it is as clear as mud to read.

Yes I mentioned draft, I'm afraid to say I'm a Matelot.
 
#4
Although I haven't done it myself, I don't think it's a particularly easy process; particularly as the rules and scrutiny have been tightened up (and rightly so). I think that CEAS will consider each situation on a case by case basis and so if you can demonstrate the legitimacy of your reasoning (not just because little B doesn't like it there) then they should be open to the idea of changing schools. They could reasonably expect that you should have thoroughly investigated the school before you decided to send your child there (Ofsted reports, school visits etc).
 
#5
We went through this with middle son, took forever.
Had to give school a full terms notice and then a very detailed and indepth case profile had to be submitted to a scrutiny board who then decide if the case is worthy of sending to JPAC.

We had to have Headmaster letters agreeing to our concerns and reasons on why son could leave, very long process and school was not keen on admitting they had failed our son. CEAS also need to back the case and an offer from another school has to be in place.

Took us 6 weeks and many many telephone conversations, meetings and tears.

Good luck!
 
#6
Thank you.
Realise it will be hard. It is looking like in two years she could be one of two boarding. When we first took her there the boarding school was full.

Worried about her and her education bot being up to scratch.

The boy has been moved up 2 levels in his reading since moving and is having to play catch up in an other subject.
Not bad coming from a prep school to a state school.

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#7
Thank you.
Realise it will be hard. It is looking like in two years she could be one of two boarding. When we first took her there the boarding school was full.

Worried about her and her education bot being up to scratch.

The boy has been moved up 2 levels in his reading since moving and is having to play catch up in an other subject.
Not bad coming from a prep school to a state school.

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Boots is your Princess for all of this.

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#8
Wafu, you need to write a formal case to go through your pay CoC for processing to PACC. You should demonstrate that the school's standards have slipped below an acceptable level; so how many boarders were there when you started, how many are there now therefore she will have little to do at the weekends and no friends to socialise with. Have the schools's education standards slipped, if so demonstrate, can you get other parents to back you up?

Be warned, the school may not like this and may not support you as they may loose their place on the CEA list and two, do not remove her before you have permission as you may then not be able to claim CEA again.


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#9
Thank you for all your help, just heard today that we can move her to another school.
She is having a taster day at the new school.
Hope she likes it as it is the school we want her to go to now and she has been looking forward to going there for so long now (for her anyway)
Today she went in skipping and wanting to go in. That is so different to how she has been at her school.
Thank you for your help.

WB
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#10
Well done that man! But, make very sure that it is the school for her and for you. Can you afford the fees and will she get all the subjects she needs. Remember too that you will need to stick to the new "improved" CEA rules, especially the ones about being accompanied, I hope she has a good time!
 
#11
I am watching the rules,
I have moved the whole family for one of my postings, only just over the min term but I still moved them so they cannot say I am not mobile

Again thanks for the help

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#12
I realise this post is a few years old now but can I ask what info you had to submit to CEA for them to agree a School move - just about to go through the same headache
 
#13
I realise this post is a few years old now but can I ask what info you had to submit to CEA for them to agree a School move - just about to go through the same headache

Try these people:

If you wish to choose another boarding school, then you will need to put in casework to explain why this school is no longer suitable and why you see a need to change schools; you will also need to check you contract with the school.

If your child has reached the end of an education stage, or has finished at a particular school, then you can change or leave without too much of an issue.

Got a question? Email our Education and Childcare Specialist at ec@aff.org.uk or call 07527 492 869.


Boarding - Army Families Federation
 
#16
I went through this years ago when I guess the regime was less demanding. Nevertheless I produced a statement covering examples of unhappy child (phone calls, changed attitude and so on), contact with the school and their response over a period of 4 months, and example results (which were falling), and I expect you’ll need something similar.

If it helps it was a really good move for my daughter: she ended up at a different school which turned out to be much better for her - it helped that it got her away from another child who was bullying her (which she wouldn’t really accept at the time). The new school was brilliant at making sure she fitted in and really helped build up her confidence which had been dented in a way that only a teenage girl’s confidence can be. So if it’s the right thing to do for your child don’t be put off by the number of hoops you have to go through - it can definitely be worth the effort. Good luck with it.
 
#17
It is hassle but as mentioned above it is worth it and the change we had with both little miss vastard and boy bustard was obvious.
Little miss bustard enjoyed her school change and her confidence grew by a huge amount.
We still had fun with her when she got tired and hungry but we and the school know to stuff food into her hand.

The boy had 4 schools in 4 terms before he was old enough to board because he didn't fit into the state school system but now he is confident and doing very well.

Use the CEAS as the can offer sorts of help and it could be worth asking if any one has had to do similar in the personnel office (whatever that may be called. UPO in navy talk). I had a lot of help from there as someone had helped on similar before.

Good luck.
 
#20
I didn't either but had evidence that she was unhappy and the school was lacking.

There is also a facebook page for forces boarding schools which has a lot of information on it. You may have to know someone on there to join.
I have found the paperwork we had when we changed schools.

Happy to go to pm if you want to.
 

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