So what is the turning point? I did not mean forced by a third party. I mean that somewhere down the line something would have happened to push them in the direction of recovery.
Again you show your naivety with your comment. Why would something have to happen down the line to push someone to seek help for a substance problem.
Are you saying that all substance users need an event to happen before they contemplate seeking support?
Are these people not able to recognise that a substance may be having some form of impact on their life and that they may either want to change or need to change?
What you are suggesting is that all users need some event to happen in their lives that would force them to move from a precontemplative state to a place where they are seeking help. Rather than a person self determining that this is not the pathway they wish to continue and opt for change.