I know a bloke who was a pothead, acid taker etc etc who drank 9 litres of fresh orange juice before his test and only got one of those letters that say he did NOT test positive but they may need another sample in the future.
Well it cant be that good, coz out of 16 on one of the project teams a couple of years, 6 had done either coke, Es, spliffs at the weekend,, and not a single one of them got caught... explanations please??
A lot depends on the drug involved and the frequency of use. Habitual cannabis smoker more likely to be caught than the occassional E or Coke abuser. Also depends on the metabolics of the user etc, so whole host of factors to be taken into consideration.
Well, there are certainly web sites selling products that basically act like a bleach drink and claim to be able to completely remove traces of the drugs that CDT tests for. I came across them being advertised on an american sports nutrition site. Apparently, all someone would need is two to eight hours advance notice of a CDT visit to allow the drink to work and he would be safe and we all know that once the signal arrives it doesn't take long for the rumours to filter down......
Yes, I knew someone that found out the CDT team was on it's way who was really panacking about getting caught. Someone told him to swallow 2 asprin's an hour before getting tested, which he did - And believe it or not, he did'nt get caught! We still don't know whether it was just sheer luck or if the asprin trick really did work - But the guy that recommended it swears by it!
anyway i have to sit down to take a leak, coz my beers guts too big i can't see my feet let alone where the hell i'm aiming.
Iteresting concept on the Aspirin though, considering its an Antiplatelet agent with Thrombolyotic action. thats why its used in patients with Heart Problems.
I wonder if it Neturlizes the trace of Drug in the bladder, I'll have to ask my boss. (get back to you on that 1) :-/
Top tip: mix Codeine Phosphate with Aspirin if u want a really good pain killer that'll send u to the Fairies for a good few hours.
CDT in the prison service is MDT (mandatory etc). Cons swear that normal houshold soap dropped in the piss sample will render it useless. I know of several that boasted of having soap stuffed behind their 4skin, up the khyber or anywhere a screw couldn't check.
I am sorry to be a party pooper but I cant believe so many people on this site know someone that is a drug user ? Do we condone drug abuse in the Army or are we happy to let the odd spliff, E, coke etc go unnoticed ? Me totally against it !
Nice one Sarn't Major, I thought I had accessed a Civvy Party site by mistake, OK I am an old Bas**ard, but the thought of sharing an active service posting with some 'smack or pothead' fills me with horror, and believe me I am not easily horrified. Have the British Army turned completely 'American' or just fuc**ng stupid. Zero Tolerance!! All the way!!
If any of you people who 'know' someone who is a drug abuser has a stripe/crown/star on your uniform you should take a razor blade to it now!!
And as for being able to 'fool' the tests, i ask you this... is it really worth losing your job over? Not to mention the fact that your future civilian boss will have to accept the fact that he is employing not just an untrustworthy lawbreaker, but also someone who doesn't care about his employment?
For those who fail a CDT, you can be out of the front gates, holding a one way warrant, within 49 hours of the letter landing on the Adjts desk. Try explaining that to the wife/parents/girlfriend/job centre!!
There's a few people in my Regiment that have been booted out due to drugs. There's a guy that got caught out on CDT just before xmas and he's still in the Regiment now! They found traces of cocaine in his urine and he came forward and said that he'd been spiked in a nightclub (which we all know is bol*oks). Can't actually believe that he's still walking around in uniform...............What's happening these day's for someone to get away with it like that???????????????
Yep, the forces are stuck in a big dog poo with this one.... can't afford to kick out loads of young people because of recruiting figures. This is set against widespread recreational use of drugs among the very people they are trying to get to join. If an excuse has even a slight ring of truth about it and the guy is generally doing OK, then they'll try to keep him in. Guess that the modern Army is also being careful of possible law suits if a soldier attempts to claim that his drug abuse was stress related.... or some other kak like that... I have to say though that It takes CDT to find drug users. Has anyone ever been surprised when someone was caught? If it were obvious beforehand, then I reckon no-one would trust banks or garages either because recreational users work there too.... Dodgy territory this...
I knew this would be a sticky topic -
I too am totally against it, but as was said earlier, its the new generation of teenager these days that seem to think social or recreational use is completely acceptable.
Its good to see such dissaproval.
If anyone is a member of the CDT team, your comments i think will be interesting. And some stats??
Totally agree with the majority of posts in this discussion, as SKYGOD would agree being a MEDIC you get to see the disastrous results of what happens to ppl who severly abuse these Substances which normally ends in a Death. (which isn't Pretty)
I Would be extremly concerned if a collegue was a USER.
Untrustworthy, Unprofessional, and a Huge RISK to your life
********* I Detest U ALL**********
As for the Spiking Issue, we have had a few case's where me & Skygod are of Genuine PPL who are not Drugs users Having their drinks spiked whilst out on the Piff. (1 of these was a Close Friend & Medical Staff Member)
I know in a lot of cases it can be Debatable but it does happen.
As for the Younger Generation, whats going to be the Best root of action to raise awareness. :-/
Everyone goes through their experimental stage the best HIGH i've ever had is an ADRENALINE rush. Try that for an Experiment, its the BEST HIGH u will EVER GET.
Have our employers ever spent lots of money on something that is guaranteed to work? Or maybe, just maybe, were the nice people that won the CDT contract the ones that did it the cheapest and provided the 'all encompassing might detect a drug on a Monday' package that tests for everything but only just?
Have you ever known the CDT team turn up on a Friday? Would that be 6-7 days after anyone who might have taken something had taken it?
They turn up on a Monday because that's about the only day they can detect anything....