Sunday Telegraph said:...Captain Tom Sawyer, 26, and Corporal Danny Winter, 28, were killed when they were hit by a Javelin missile fired by British troops on January 14th...
Daytona955 said:<snip>Anyway, what soldier is going to freely admit a mistake that ends up in the death or injury of a colleague when the SIB and the SPA are waiting in the wings to pounce and put them through the cogs of the 'fairest' legal system in the world!!!!!!
Dunservin said:leveller said:
Not everything in the garden is rosy if this sort of thing still happens:
Granted, but you dont want the MD (CGS), telling all and sundry all the cock up's made. Thats what an enquiry is about.
If lessons are still not being learned after an enquiry, then there is a problem with higher managment inplementing (cost) new procedures.
PullUpASandbag said:So whats this tw#ats history? He ever done any fighting or does he just make the big bucks sitting in an office somewhere with his gay blue uniform on?
thegimp said:What we need are HAZIDS done prior to any activity, every member of the "Team" should be empowered to halt any activity if they believe it is hazardous, perhaps using a stop card reporting system
An incentive scheme could be developed, points make prizes, if you report anything dangerous you get ten points etc, you can build your points account up then select a prize from the RAF cuckoo clock catalogue
It may eventually mean a reduction in gallantry awards (But a safer working environment for all) but this isn't a bad thing as the VC metal is running a bit low
chasndave said:A big driver on this, I believe, is the introduction of the Corporate Manslaughter and Homicide Act (2007 I think). Now I'm no legal-beagle, but as I understand it this was a piece of legislation brought in to ensure that accidents / incidents such as Piper Alpha, Herald of Free Enterprise and Hatfield Train Crash aren't repeated, by introducing an element of accountability (ie it's no longer acceptable to say "Sorry, it was an accident, here's your pay-off"). Another Bliar brainchild, in same way as FOIA.
The CDS adds: "To me such a culture is based on trust. It suggests a working environment where individuals are encouraged to contribute to providing essential safety information and where they are commended for owning up to mistakes.