Discussion in 'Royal Signals' started by X-Mech, Oct 27, 2006.

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  1. Anyone intrested in CCNA in Germany please PM me.

    Cost - ELC + £250, includes 7 days course + exam, if you fail the exam you get to resit the course (no free exam re-sits) as many times as you want for 12 months on one of the companies Public courses in the UK.

    Does not include food and accomodation but if enough intrested will be held on a Military camp.

    No sims all real hardware.
  2. LOL. A couple of grand for a bottom-rung qualification, not including food and accommodation. Mr Ambassador, you are spoiling us...

    It depends upon your trade/experience, but I reckon the smart money would be on doing your own thing for CCNA - lots of reading, get hands on with your latest TM or IS troop, download the cisco simulator, get some braindumps in, do some practice exams then get CCNA'd up for next to no money.

    Then use your ELCs for CCNP or perhaps one of the specialist tracks - e.g. voice or security. In terms of 'opportunity cost' it's for winners.

    But each to his own... :wink:

  3. Is the CCNA actually worth doing?

    I mean how employable are you upon completion, salary etc.

    I appreciate this is the 'bottom level' qualification but just curious.
  4. By the way, x-mech, sorry if my post sounded dismissive at all. Certainly not intended in that way and I'm aware of your own background, so fair play to your honourable efforts. I'm just personally aiming to invest my ELCs into something that will pay my mortgage! :wink: What company is running the course you're on about? One of my lads is leaving v shortly and looking into the Cisco route (but in UK).
  5. That all depends on your skills that you have using the kit and wether or not you have the experience to back up your qual. If you are willing to be trained a few companies will take you but at a much lower wage, you can however use them to get you where you want.

    At the end of the day an entry level qual is what you make of it. If you train and complete it then you can go on to do the CCNP or specialise. The main thing you need though is experience if you are still serving in the sigs get yourself onto the many EDS bits of kit, they always have Cisco on them.

    I agree whole heartedly with this approach. Get yourself the Todd Lamale book about £50 but well worth it, then get some braindumps of Boson, this method works for me, although I have not qualified yet as the CCNA only lasts for 3 years I still get 950+ in the mock exams.
  6. Download the whole lot from eMule or some kind of P2P server and take in on exercise and study like mad. Save you a fortune and you can take it in at your own pace.

    I have done too many IT courses where I would have done better with a week off and a book.
  7. CCNA's worth doing as a lot of civvies jobs in comms look for this as a minimum.

    Also if you're serious about going thru certification, you'll need to start with your CCNA before getting to CCNP or branching off to do the security qualifications.

    It's not that hard to take and pass and you can mock it for what it is, but believe me, it's better to have it than not. Also if you take it whilst still serving, shows an employee you've got something about you
  8. Poisondwarf your not getting away with that after your attempt at rubbishing the qualification. You may be highly qualified in your own zone but this was aimed at anyone as the fist step into Cisco qualifications. An essential step in personal development.

    Im sure there will be quite a good response from some of the more junior IS fraternity as well as those wanting to take that first step into networking prior to release. Whether they use ELCs or not is entirely their choice, however I would also advise against it if they have the self discipline to self study (not everyone is capable of this).

  9. [quote="PoisonDwarf]
    LOL. A couple of grand for a bottom-rung qualification, not including food and accommodation. Mr Ambassador, you are spoiling us...

    But each to his own... :wink:

    PD you are such a nasty wee man!! Just add my tuppeny worth and say that the CCNA is useful if you want to join a professional body (particularly the IET) as it is on the qualifying list to become an MIET.

    Post-nominals always look sexy on a CV.
  10. I did the CCNA through my civvie job, and am currently putting all my staff through it, the thing to be aware of is it only lasts 3 years, you need loads of hands on if you want to get on with CCNP or the VOIP or Security ones.
    seen too many paper CCNA's - asking them to login or just cable a router to a modem - with a pile of cables of course - not many can do it and the odd few admit to brain-dumps, sims and testking.

    by all means do CCNA on an organised course, but get hold of some routers or high level switches from ebay and just practice the sims for real.

    CCNP is easier and more worthwhile as long as you have hands on.

    personally though - bags of general comms knowledge, eager to learn, a clean driving licence and an interest in Prince2. thats the way forward.
  11. Sorry Chris, I forgot that you did CCNA for your resettlement. You can give me a dig in the ribs at the Army Navy game. :shakefist:

    For my resettlement, I'm doing a Pinky and the Brain. Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world! Not sure how the T&S costs will work out though.
  12. No worries mate, only did it 'cos the army had already paid for all my Nortel courses, Satcom courses etc etc.
  13. A bit of a late reply but someone who has CCNA and (the vital part) experience is looking at a starting wage of £25k in the London area.

    Paper passes in CCNA may get you the interview but you'll get found out pretty quickly and will progress no further.