CCF

#1
Just figured if the rest of the cadet organisation is represented, why not CCF, just wondering if there were any others on the site, kind of our own little sub-forum similar to the individual OTC units?
JayGee
 
#3
does anyone know why the acf and ccf aren't in a separate forum to the OTC?
 
#5
Have been in the CCF for three years and still am.

The OTC/ACF forum is fine. Number of CCF arrse members doesn't really justify a sub-forum in my opinion, would just be a couple of posts a month I expect.
 
#6
Aye, were all cadets, just thought i would put a wee bit in for the CCF
 
#7
The ACF, CCF and OTC are all completely different animals. With the ACF being the most professional and most under-resourced whilst being the army's biggest and most influencing recruiter. OTC are not 'cadets' but adults who come directly under the army structure and come under miltary law....!
 
#8
illbeamonkeysoon said:
The ACF, CCF and OTC are all completely different animals. With the ACF being the most professional and most under-resourced whilst being the army's biggest and most influencing recruiter. OTC are not 'cadets' but adults who come directly under the army structure and come under miltary law....!
..........but can't get deployed, just like cadets.
 
#9
illbeamonkeysoon said:
The ACF, CCF and OTC are all completely different animals. With the ACF being the most professional and most under-resourced whilst being the army's biggest and most influencing recruiter. OTC are not 'cadets' but adults who come directly under the army structure and come under miltary law....!
I'd agree they're all different - the whole ACF/CCF thing is the difference in who they're trying to recruit from them (the idea being that the CCF are the future Officers, and the ACF soldiers - the training is done on a different kind of slant)

But surely the OTC are effectively just a different kind of Cadet - yes they are subject to military law, but can leave at any time and can't be mobilised as they're TA (B).

Back to the point though - I'm sure there are a good few CCF people on here so maybe a sort of sub-forum might be good?
 
#10
Cymru_am_Byth said:
illbeamonkeysoon said:
OTC are not 'cadets' but adults who come directly under the army structure and come under miltary law....!
..........but can't get deployed, just like cadets.
No, can be deployed, but only in the same way type B TA units can be deployed. I.e. Just prior to national conscription or when the British Isles are being overrun.
 
#11
I agree but would it not be better to have CCF and ACF combined and OTC separate? Filtering through all the student garbage does my head in sometimes, just to get a valid youth's/ youth leaders perspective on things.....
 

SCoy

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#12
Wassat? CCF are potential officers now? Erm, even though I did go to a grammar school, I can't remember our training ever being tailored to officer stuff:S Mind, due to alcohol intake, can't remember a lot :D
 
#14
My god the last lot of CCF cadets i saw would need to be sheared by a farmer before RMAS...and the general rants they leave on my detachments desks ie 'allah is great' would not be the kind of thing future officers should be saying surely.
Having said that I am from birmingham :)
 
#15
I think i am right in saying the CCF is the successor to the OTC in schools, so officer link may be a hang over from that.


A little bit of research and it appears I am right :D (roughly)
Here
 
#17
I didnt post this to cause a rant over the superiority of any branch of the cadets, more for discussion of specific to CCF stuff bascially, as in how we do at courses such as Nesscliffe and Frimley in comparison to the ACF and how their own units work at school, such as mine is compulsory for two years then optional for NCOs in the sixth form.
 
#20
unfortunately most posts tend to mutate into something that is completely different to what the originator intended, its just the nature of the beast.

The upperclassness thing seems to hold water as i have never found another ex-ACF cadet in OTC in four years, including mixing with other OTC's, very odd. Plus, if i was meant to be a soldier then and now im meant to be an officer also shows a hole in the "ACF is for soldiers" claim. Then again i probably will fail RCB for telling a dead baby joke in my interview and end up as a soldier..... doh!
 
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