Catching IRA bombmakers

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by msr, Oct 15, 2008.

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  1. msr

    msr LE

    Very clever:

    One of the most interesting operations was the laundry mat [sic]. Having lost many troops and civilians to bombings, the Brits decided they needed to determine who was making the bombs and where they were being manufactured. One bright fellow recommended they operate a laundry and when asked "what the hell he was talking about," he explained the plan and it was incorporated -- to much success.

    http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/clever_countert.html
     
  2. Rockstar

    Rockstar Old-Salt

    Genius! Wonder if he got a GEMS payout?!
     
  3. Bravo_Bravo

    Bravo_Bravo On ROPS On ROPs

    4 Square Laundry, IIRC?

    Sadly PIRA got wind of this and, err, "stopped" the operation.

    Good way of forensically looking for traces of PE, ANFO etc.

    From the comments - looks like an ARRSER:

    "Yet another example of how inexpensive, reliable home washers and dryers help terrorists. When will we learn???"

    :D
     
  4. taffplod

    taffplod Old-Salt

    Think the Sappers were in on this in the early 70s
     
  5. Bugsy

    Bugsy Crow

    Wow! I'd never heard of this. It just shows how a deceptively simple but imaginative idea can pay dividends. Cracking skills.

    MsG
     
  6. western

    western Crow

    Ah Bruce Schneier, sadly turning into the Baron Castleshort of the security world. Was really good until he became the worlds expert on the whole world and everything.
     
  7. The guy who was killed on that op was RE

    http://www.palacebarracksmemorialgarden.org/Royal%20Engineers.htm
     
  8. Hmm. Clever I'll admit, but not quite as good as the classic method of accosting people at random and asking them;

    "Are you an IRA bombmaker?" :D
     
  9. Good 'OP' for it's time. The Int Corps on top form. I've always wondered why our team were compromised as PIRA were in no position to 'get wind' of anything. The Corps won an MC. Lives were lost, may God rest their souls'.
     
  10. one-flew-over

    one-flew-over War Hero

    Gemini massage parlour on Antrim road was another. Used by PIRA and monitored by the Army.

    Brits by Peter Taylor covers this and 4 Square.
     
  11. Correctamundo! Lives WERE lost; IIRC a WRAC soldier was also killed but it was along time ago. Wasn't the laundry van ambushed?
     
  12. one-flew-over

    one-flew-over War Hero

    I think she survived by hiding in a house and got the MM for her troubles - first WRAC MM according to my Peter Taylor book.
     
  13. BrunoNoMedals

    BrunoNoMedals LE Reviewer

    Yes, you do have to wonder how such a backwards country lacking in innovation, with Armed Forces who are inexperienced and poorly trained, managed such a feat.

    W*nker.
     
  14. Oh Dear. "A Quinn of South Armagh" seems to have got a bit narked with the septics for not toeing the party line. Possibly not the response he expected.
     
  15. Ah, so that's Baron Castleshort's plan is it?

    It's OK everyone!
    He's just after independence for Castlebellingham...