Cars now classed as classics

BopBopBop

War Hero
I had an Insignia with one of those- all the electrics with various warning messages together with the hill start gubbins seems a lot of complication and stuff to break (pun intended) just to free up a bit of storage space.
I had a couple of days racing around the country in a Montego Turbo during my police advanced course.

Every time you started the engine it would tell you.

"All monitored systems are working correctly"

I started saying that to myself whenever I woke up after a night on the piss.
 
I saw a cracking T shirt being worn by some chap who as doing deliveries round here. "Old cars- not new Classics"
It's been something I've been contemplating for some time that the Term Classic should be as limited as Vintage or Veteran. The chaps point being that cars with no electronics really were the end of an era of basics. I would say that takes us up to around 1985
I had a couple of days racing around the country in a Montego Turbo during my police advanced course.

Every time you started the engine it would tell you.

"All monitored systems are working correctly"

I started saying that to myself whenever I woke up after a night on the piss.
I went off Montegos in a big way. I don't fault the finish but it was the first car I had that had an electronic sensor on the flywheel and if you cooked the clutch, it did for the sensor. It had the most alarming habit of cutting out just at a critical point, which wasn't much fun at Grain. I subsequently swapped it with a dealer who couldn't shift and SD1 2000. Brilliant car. I did 40K in one year going from Dartford to Grain to Gatport on various shifts
 

BopBopBop

War Hero
I saw a cracking T shirt being worn by some chap who as doing deliveries round here. "Old cars- not new Classics"
It's been something I've been contemplating for some time that the Term Classic should be as limited as Vintage or Veteran. The chaps point being that cars with no electronics really were the end of an era of basics. I would say that takes us up to around 1985

I went off Montegos in a big way. I don't fault the finish but it was the first car I had that had an electronic sensor on the flywheel and if you cooked the clutch, it did for the sensor. It had the most alarming habit of cutting out just at a critical point, which wasn't much fun at Grain. I subsequently swapped it with a dealer who couldn't shift and SD1 2000. Brilliant car. I did 40K in one year going from Dartford to Grain to Gatport on various shifts
I did enjoy driving the Montego Turbo, it had impressive acceleration and was one of the more memorable police cars I have driven.
Glad we never had to worry about the mechanical side.

Had SD1 area cars (2600) and Traffic had the 3500 but I never got to drive them at work and spent many hours in the passenger seat It seemed policeman proof.
 
I did enjoy driving the Montego Turbo, it had impressive acceleration and was one of the more memorable police cars I have driven.
Glad we never had to worry about the mechanical side.

Had SD1 area cars (2600) and Traffic had the 3500 but I never got to drive them at work and spent many hours in the passenger seat It seemed policeman proof.
Monte go turbo ...apparently didn’t have that problem. I later found that it didn’t apply to the 1300 or 2.0 variants. I was quite taken with the MG variant. V8’s were bomb proof . Achillies heel on the SDI was the LT 77 box largely because you were meant to use AQF in them but the fibre pump drives in the normally got loaded with Standard oil. That knocked out the gear box lay shaft bearings.
 
A classic car every time for me, like my reliable 2006 Ford Fiesta
When will manufacturers understand that purchasers of manual gearbox cars want...... A cable Handbrake!
I purchased a 12 plate manual Evoque without checking it would be supplied with a handbrake. There is no way I shall ever buy a new car....Because I don't like the electric parking brake.
ive never quite understood the rationel for fitting an electric one either.
my Range Rover has one, the parts count is not insignificant, so not a huge saving there. And of course if you use it it goes wrong as it fills up with brake dust and then seizes ( along with every other leccy handbrake Land Rover fit) which is an mot fail.
my saving grace is its an auto with manual option so just gets left in park.
( the “ handbrake” is only ever applied at the test station.!)
 

KnockKnock

Old-Salt
ive never quite understood the rationel for fitting an electric one either.
my Range Rover has one, the parts count is not insignificant, so not a huge saving there. And of course if you use it it goes wrong as it fills up with brake dust and then seizes ( along with every other leccy handbrake Land Rover fit) which is an mot fail.
my saving grace is its an auto with manual option so just gets left in park.
( the “ handbrake” is only ever applied at the test station.!)
Yes RR seem to think the manual option should still be supplied with electric parking brake. I like and will not change from having my left hand ready at all times to apply the handbrake, so good old Fiesta, and I shall not be buying any new car until i find one I like with a 'Handbrake'
 

KnockKnock

Old-Salt
What do other classic car owners do on this site, when the paint starts to rust through in small patches? Go for a complete respray, or keep the car in original finish and the paint patched up?
The later (paint parched up) will always attract some 'know all' who will wander up and say in a loud voice, 'Do you know you've got rust coming through, you need to get that fixed!'
 
What do other classic car owners do on this site, when the paint starts to rust through in small patches? Go for a complete respray, or keep the car in original finish and the paint patched up?
The later (paint parched up) will always attract some 'know all' who will wander up and say in a loud voice, 'Do you know you've got rust coming through, you need to get that fixed!'
Chop the springs, slam it on banded steelies and cover one of the front wings in random stickers.


Oh, sorry, wrong site!
 
So I was planning on semi retirement in 4 years. What is the most affordable future classic car to do up. In a REME way?
 
Yes RR seem to think the manual option should still be supplied with electric parking brake. I like and will not change from having my left hand ready at all times to apply the handbrake, so good old Fiesta, and I shall not be buying any new car until i find one I like with a 'Handbrake'
What manual option? There are none.
 
So I was planning on semi retirement in 4 years. What is the most affordable future classic car to do up. In a REME way?
If you enjoy constantly doing repairs and hunting down parts buy a Range rover Classic.
 

wild_moose

War Hero
I was chatting to the only other dad at my daughter's ballet class a couple of years ago - transpired he invested in cars that were not your traditional 'classics'. That day he was on his way to purchase a Citreon BX (the one that rose up when you turned the ignition on). A little surprised by this as soon as I got home I looked on Autotrader and found there was only one for sale in the entire country, I wouldn't have thought they'll go the way of the 1960's DS which really were classic but he was obviously onto something
 
So I was planning on semi retirement in 4 years. What is the most affordable future classic car to do up. In a REME way?
I'm biased (heavily) however if you take a look at specifically the JDM RS Mk1 Eunos Roadster 1840cc versions you might be on a long term winner if it needs fettling...for that read rot. These ones had lightened flywheels, braces, uprated ECUs etc. Top 80/90 points cars are now going for 10k plus IF..and only if....they are non molested and not rotting. Middle of the roaders around 4 to 7k. There are other so called Ltd Eds but frankly, Hiroshima pumped out more Ltd's than mainstream stock some years. I have to say, getting good one and fettling the terrific chassis with Meisters, big brakes, and poly bushes etc makes them epic through twisties and it takes something a lot more expensive in the right hands to embarrass them. The wishbone chassis are fully laser-adjustable. Mine's set up for "Fast Road".
Rebuilt mine last year.
After 14 years of daily hard use, when I retired my dilemma was I could not really justify an 8/9k Mk1, but could chuck £5k refurbing "The Shed"



MGB's ( slow and agricultural by today's standards) can be fettled up. Underpinnings & oily bits are ten a penny, but the tubs are hard work if the tin worm has got a grip. Lots of dogs around with more Polyfilla & Daily Record than steel. Mine would need the V8 in tbh.

Really good TR6's or Frogeyes are stupid money now for ones that are not going to keep you awake at night. As are Capri 2.8s, Mk1 twin-cam Escorts etc.

Whatever you pick, can I just advise you to be extremely careful where you get your bits from, and join the relevant OC. There is a huge market on diabolical cheap copies of just about everything...like water pumps with plastic vanes sprayed silver. Furthermore, OC's are usually a safer place to hunt a "known" car with checkable history.
 
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