Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Sven, May 12, 2008.
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Why build carriers when the RN doesnt have the money to keep its current fleet at sea ? A carrier requires escorts to protect it.
Votes, carriers part built in Browns Scottish constituency.
And hopefully by the time they are built we will have a new Government who won't be trying to run two wars on the lowest comparitive peace time budget since Cromwell was in short trousers.
The steel for the carriers was bought ages ago: the only 'confirmation' going on here is the finalising of the contract to actually cut the stuff. I have to say 'well played' to the Royal Navy who have played a really good game here.
T6 - never say never...
Ah so the government will be announcing that the carriers will not be built in Labour controlled areas.
I am 100% confident these carriers will be built, and I also think the RN with get more escorts, but only if they are clever.
I say they get one in the water, take it through some combat drills with the yanks and then go mental all over the front pages saying they dont have the escorts to protect their new carrier.
Play the game!
All well and good, but 'playing the game' results in a couple of things
A shortfall somewhere else.
A reinforcement of the general view that defence acquisition is a game, a game played by boys in short trousers who want a more sweets than the next kid. Politicians will find it even easier to divide and rule and the Treasury will continue to view the MoD as its most wasteful troublesome child and keep the defence settlement as low as possible.
Whats the alternative when you have a government that ignores the facts and does everything on the cheap.
All I am saying is I think its time the MOD started playing a bit off politics itself, and actually using the media a bit more.
hopefully by the time the hulls start to take shape there will be a new government who might be willing to spend a bit more more money on defence, the two princes amongst others seem to be doing a good job at keeping the issue in the headlines.
Then we might be able to have the 12 destroyers we need rather than the 6 that are being built....
Next task is to deal with Seley Oak,
Are they going to be nuc powered?
T45 x 6
2 x CVF's
3 x Replacements for Invicible Class Carriers ( for Royal Marines able to carry Harriers and Helo's same as USMC)
Albion Class x 3 assualt ships
12 x T45's
Frigates and Destroyers back up to min 35 total
Does anyone really think the Tories are going to provide a sustained and significant uplift in defence funding, especially when they have publicy committed to keeping the same spending plans as Labour
The defence community should call for a taxi and ask to go to reality street because hoping for more is not a sensible strategy.
We are facing an aging population that is going to massively increase pension, welfare and healthcare costs, the world is facing an economic downturn and the desire for reduction in public spending as a benefit of reducing taxation across the board is palpable.
Don't forget, the tories have just as bad a record on defence reviews and spending as labour so hoping the blue team is going to come riding over the hill with a big bag of cash is just wishful thinking.
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