Carnage in Baghdad - US drawdown in Iraq to quick?

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  1. With today's series of bombings in Baghdad resulting in the worst loss of life in recent years - is the US drawdown and reliance on Iraqi sy forces happening too quickly?

    Source: BBC Webpage
     
  2. Hmmm seems someone blamed us for the same type of action in Bashra, lets see how they respond
     
  3. Well, the septics were perhaps too quick to have a go at the British for firstly pulling back to base and then bugging out.

    They also called it a victory and vamooshed to a degree.

    For us Brits, having been efectively chucked out of Iraq by their new president, and of course, with the collusion of the septics too, the war is over.

    Quite frankly, I'm glad we're out of it, because it's someone elses problem (their profit too if I'm not mistaken about the oil deals).

    We have our plates full in Afghan, where even the septics are saying UK forces have too much to do with too little.

    Edited to add: Damn you Desktop Commando! :D

    Edited to add again: Just what DID we get for our efforts and the cost in lives in Iraq?
     
  4. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    As long as the Iraqis only kill each other, who cares? This is the Arab version of democracy.
     
  5. I would remind you that there are still some Brits in Baghdad as part of NATO.

    Secondly, the Americans argued quite hard that the UK MOU should have been renewed; partly because they have had to backfill all the posts vacated by the subsequent British exodus. Ultimately, the decision to expel the Brits was very much driven by Maliki's personal agenda combined with his desire to appease the COR and show 'strength' in advance of the forthcoming elections.
     
  6. It could be that Al-queda/Taliban are trying to keep the Americans in two places still, rather than let them help out in Afghan.The idea was for the Uk to drawdown in Iraq and concentrate on Afghan but Brown used that as an excuse to get out.
     
  7. Doesn't matter how slowly you withdraw their is always going to be a vacuum to fill.
     
  8. Bloody Nora what primate cage did you escape from?
    Some of us have Iraqi friends and care very much!
    :x
     
  9. This type of terrorist attack couldn't have been stopped by US troops still being in Iraqi cities.
     
  10. The SOFA time line for US withdrawal has always been unrealistic. On both the Bush and al Maliki sides it was mainly driven by domestic political concerns and a realism of the very limited patience of both populations. From the US side it represents an acceptance that Iraq will take its own shape despite DC's best efforts to produce something less distasteful. Its also wantonly optimistic (Barry is even worse than Dubya in this) about the thin chance of DC achieving a clean extraction from the regional mess.

    This particular set of incidents has little to do with US troops withdrawing from Iraqi city streets. There has been a steady trickle of mass casualty attacks in the past few months mainly on Shi'a slums. At best US troops were tamping down the scale of violence and limiting target areas. More significant was their partnership with the "Awakenings" movement and those groups have been unraveling under the scorn of the Green Zone "Persians".

    Despite the improvements made in security since the dire days of 07 no real ethno-sectarian reconciliation in Iraqi politics has occurred. That leaves those that don't like the regime being run out the Green Zone plenty of scope for sparking a resumption of the civil war. They know there are only so many stress relieving buffties folks like JAM can take the Black and Decker to before it becomes necessary to bite back hard.

    The political tensions extend into the ISF itself:
    Some chance! This is hardly surprising. Even Saddam's army was a carefully balanced mass of tribal and political tensions.