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Career/Professional Gambling

I came up with a good value bet not to long ago.

The odds for the first goalscorer are the same as the odds for the last goalscorer but I think those odds change during a game.

If you bet on a central defender (John Terry) to score the last goal you are getting much better value than the first goal as defenders always go up for a corner in the last 10 minutes of a game to stick one in, especially if losing.

Divide the amount of final goals scored by a defender over the course of a season.

Find odds higher than that.

Bet every week.

Earn a Captain's wage on the side.

I havent even looked into yet though.
 
***************Top Tip************

A lot of on line bookies offer free bets and the like, BUT if you use www.quidco.co.uk to join them you can earn up to £50 for joining and a £10 wager - Betfair.
Depending on how many sites you join you can earn hundreds in comission before you even start to gamble.
It can take a few months for the money to come through, but £50 is £50! :)
 
Nothing but sound advice from all, thanks.

Regarding horse racing and form, weather, jockeys etc. This really doesn't do it for me, too many factors that could go against and I know diddly-squat about horse racing! However, football more often than not is easily understood and clear cut IMHO. Derby v Man Utd I would put as an easy away win and Derby almost held on for a draw. Man Utd v Liverpool? For me, that would be harder to consider a winner.

Opinions?
 
The aim of the game is not to pick winners from every match you fancy but to study a great deal of bets and pick the ones you can find value in.

If Man Utd were 1/50 to beat derby would you bet on Derby? Damn right because you know for every fifty games they play Derby are likely to win more than one game so that's value. Do you see? If not gambling for a living is prob not for you lol.

Whilst on the subject I have a little riddle for you.

There are three doors.
Behind 1 door is a brand new car.
Behind the other 2 is a kick in the balls.

I say to you you can pick a single door and go and stand by it.
Whichever door you pick I will then open 1 of the remaining 2 doors revealing for definite a kick in the balls.

There will be 2 doors left. Yours and the other 1.

You can now either.... stay with your original choice or switch for the other unopened door.

What would you do?

There is a completely logical solution and it highlights why most people shouldn't gamble.

Smart arse answers to yourselves people. Seriously, stick with your choice or swap doors?
 
I placed this thread in this forum because I thought it said 'gambling'. I've just noticed it says 'gaming'! Anyway, I went onto verious well known gambling sites and some are just hard work to navigate and understand.

I found www.betUK.com to be the simplest to use. Also I think accumilators would be a fun way to gamble, i.e. £1 on each of the ten Premiership games and a £1 accumilator. £11 down with a potential £2,008 win pot. It's more fun than the Lotto surely. £2 on each and double the winnings etc.

Sounds simple, well it is providing one doesn't get addicted.
 
Dontdreamit said:
The aim of the game is not to pick winners from every match you fancy but to study a great deal of bets and pick the ones you can find value in.

If Man Utd were 1/50 to beat derby would you bet on Derby? Damn right because you know for every fifty games they play Derby are likely to win more than one game so that's value. Do you see? If not gambling for a living is prob not for you lol.

Whilst on the subject I have a little riddle for you.

There are three doors.
Behind 1 door is a brand new car.
Behind the other 2 is a kick in the balls.

I say to you you can pick a single door and go and stand by it.
Whichever door you pick I will then open 1 of the remaining 2 doors revealing for definite a kick in the balls.

There will be 2 doors left. Yours and the other 1.

You can now either.... stay with your original choice or switch for the other unopened door.

What would you do?

There is a completely logical solution and it highlights why most people shouldn't gamble.

Smart arse answers to yourselves people. Seriously, stick with your choice or swap doors?

Always swap. Sounds strange but the odds of winning are double if you swap but it's far too late to explain in detail right now.

Tubs
 
Dontdreamit said:
rebel_with_a_cause said:
Some sage advice given to me by a bookie many years ago was "Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose and NEVER chase a win, you'll never catch it". Enjoy gambling if you want to do it but as has been said before, how many poor bookies are there?

Ironclad rules

1. Bookmakers love 'systems'. These guys consistently lose more than the average punter because a system (the bet plus one, the double up etc etc) do not work and encourages multiple bets.

2. Horses are rife with corruption anyway so the results are a bit of a lottery.

3. A bookmakers advantage at the dogs is approx 11% ( much more than other sports.)

4. Roulette cannot be beat. No matter how many books say it can. It cannot be beat. It is 100% scientifically impossible. If you win, it was luck, if you lose it was luck.

5. The worst value bet in football is picking the first half / second half result, well, apart from betting on Everton to make Europe :lol:

6. Poker is not classed as gambling in some areas of the world due to the level of skill involved. A skilled player will consistently beat a non skilled player therefore it cannot be a game of chance (some say).

7. Bookmakers do not know everything and the advent of the internet means a punter can get information as quickly as the oddsmakers. Information = money.

8. Blackjack can be beat but you need to work extremely hard just to earn a small percentage advantage over the house. Card counting gives approx 1-2% advantage. Every 100 quid wagered earns 2 quid.

If anyone else has any other tips post them please add.

Very very good advice there.

Dependant on your output/ cash influx.............

Yer fokked. Learn poker :D its he only place if you know yer shit that you will win money............horses/dogs etc etc proper bollax.

And if you have 25k you can enter the WSOP event.......................
 
Some of the ones who bet for a career do it by trawling the odds given by different bookies and finding a way to make a bet that wont lose.

I know someone who does it, he will make about 3 different bets with different bookies and if he loses say two of them, the other bet will make up for the loss.

There is a website that tells you these bets to make (betbrain or surebets or something), but as soon as it is posted up the bookies see it and change the odds, they can even turn down a bet after it is acepted,so if it was one you were relying on you could lose all your cash.

My friend does it full time and he does make money, but when he showed me how much he made I asked him why he doesn't just get a proper job as he'd be better off, and he had to agree.

Your better off being an entreprenuar, I had 2 failed buisneses before I had a successful one, many millionaires have been bankrupt at some point, but when it works it's rewarding because you've done it yourself and easy money.
 
I play Poker (Texas Holdem, some Brag, some 7 card, even Bridge for money on a points = pounds basis) at an amateur level, both with mates and at our local Casino. I like to think I am pretty good, have learned the odds against getting a hand off your first two cards, learned when to bluff, learned how to look for the all important tells etc etc.

The amateur home games are always worse than Casino games, people tend to get silly (thinking they can bluff to the end or betting on a 3,4 first draw and then thinking they will lose face by folding etc etc ) and losing cash to mates is always a strain on still being mates.

I am very careful who I play at a Casino. The best games are made up of a load of amateurs that don't know each other, you don't mind winning and you don't mind losing (as long as you are prepared to lose in the first place).

Try (if you can) to spot the Pro's and steer clear around 1 million miles until you have years of face to face experience. They will fcuk you over 100 ways. They have no patterns that anyone except another pro will notice, will give false tells, will fold on great hands, bet on sh1t ones and go all in to scare you off on a 8 high.

The NUMBER ONE rule whilst learning cards (of any nature) is this

NEVER, EVER, EVER take more in to the game than you are willing to lose. When you run out of cash, walk.

The NUMBER TWO rule is this

DO NOT, under ANY circumstances take a cash, debit or credit card in to a Casino. NEVER, EVER, EVER. The hospitality girls are there to get you p1ssed. Being p1ssed means you will draw more cash out.

The NUMBER THREE rule is this

NEVER, EVER, EVER, once you have run out of money, think you can win it back by handing over your car keys, house, wife, dog etc. It stands a damn good chance that the guy that took all your money off you will be living in your house, driving your car and eating your dog. Better to lose the Grand in cash you went in with than your 20 Grand car.

Betting, especially on cards, is an adrenaline buzz whilst you are playing, but one you need to control. I have seen people that have had a lucky streak and then see it as a means to a living. Unless you are one of the naturally talented ones to be good enough to make a living out of it (and you won't know that until after years of playing), treat it as such or you'll end up in Mandella Towers living next to Dell Boy


Edited for drunken spelling, but I bet there's loads more
 
That riddle is interesting.

Your saying that initially you have a 1/3 chance of winning your car. However once you are certain that one of the doors you didn't pick was a kick in the balls you then have a 1/2 chance.

Whether you change doors or not, you still have a 1/2 chance. How does changing doors give you an advantage?

Isn't that the same flawed logic as saying 'the last 3 colours were red so I'll move to black as it's more likely to come up'?. Or accepting a swap on deal or no deal? You are no more or less likely to win, you have a 1/2 chance of winning either way.

Correct me if I've miss-understood. :)
 
mark1234 said:
Your better off being an entreprenuar, I had 2 failed buisneses before I had a successful one, many millionaires have been bankrupt at some point, but when it works it's rewarding because you've done it yourself and easy money.

Exactly. I do bet what I can afford because of the above.

Make the money and then bet a small amount of it for a laugh, don't try to make it by betting.

Take a look at the buildings in Vegas and then ask yourself how often the better wins
 
He's not actually explained it correctly.

There is a 33% chance of choosing the correct door, therefore a 66% chance that it is one of the other two. Eliminate one of the other doors and it's still only a 33% chance that you have the correct one, so swap for a 66% chance.
 
Best one I heard from a roulette player was that "if he bet on red one time, black the next, that the law of averages would mean he would win half the time"

Took me about a week to explain that the mathematical and physics law of average from which the assumption is taken is based on the other assumption of infinite time. I.E. for the none Hawkins readers out there, if he played for the rest of time, the best he could hope for was a draw.

Didn't really fit into his average 70 year life span

Gambling is for fun against unknown odds, that's what makes it fun
 
Actually, changing colour each turn introduces another variable, making the chance of winning lower than 50%*.

*The 0 makes it less than 50% anyway, but that makes the maths too complicated for 0230. It is impossible to win at roulette, stick with games of skill for any chance of making money, and then only when you know what you're doing.
 
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